What is "Industrial"?

[realolman]

One thing that I get a kick out of is when a customer says that a guy they know who works maintenance at 'the shop" did some wiring for them but they need some other stuff done. You go to the house and find that the 20A 240V A/c that was hooked up, was run from the panel in conduit, #6 THHN was used, and a 60A heavy duty disconnect switch was used outside with 1" sealtite leading to the condensor.Sure it all worked, but should it have cost $600 to hook up the unit. Some jobs are better left to the ones who are familiar with the particular line of work they are used to. JMO.

I work maintenance at " the shop. "

Although I have derated wires for conduit fill or vortage drop, I don't think I have ever run a 20 a. circuit in #6 thhn.

 

[iwire]

Although I have derated wires for conduit fill or voltage drop, I don't think I have ever run a 20 a. circuit in #6 thhn.

I have installed 4 AWG for 20 amp receptacle circuits.

That was per the engineer for reasons of voltage drop.

 

[ptonsparky]

I have installed 4 AWG for 20 amp receptacle circuits.

That was per the engineer for reasons of voltage drop.

Hope that included the a 4 AWG EG or was the raceway good enough?

 

[iwire]

Hope that included the a 4 AWG EG or was the raceway good enough?

That is a good point, doubt that the raceway was used.

My part of the job was terminating all the 4 AWGs at the panel, I can not remember the EGC. This job was at least 8 years ago.

 

[Controls]

Zog, You are welcome, Sir.

 

[robh]

For the state of Oregon...
Its kind of defined by the state. I think there is something like 23 electrical licenses Oregon offers. I would say that if you are working on just about anything besides a house it could be considered industrial.

---"Industrial"---
These guys are limited to industrial and commercial only.

Electrician, Limited Maintenance (LME)
This license allows the holder to repair and maintain electrical equipment of a type normally found in an industrial plant, commercial office buildings, buildings owned or operated by the state, or a local government entity or institution. Electrical work is limited to 600 volts and less.

Electrician, Limited Journeyman, Manufacturing Plant (PJ)
This license allows the holder to perform an electrical installation, or repair, replace, or maintain electrical wiring and electrical products on or in an existing and operable manufacturing or industrial plant that is owned or used by the license holder's employer.

Electrician, Limited Supervisor, Manufacturing Plant (PS)
This license will permit the holder to direct, supervise, or perform the making of any electrical installation, except a service, in or on the manufacturing or industrial plant that the regular employer manages or owns.

---"Industrial" and Resi---
These guys can work on any electrical equipment.

Electrician, General Journeyman (J)
This license category will allow the holder to perform any type of electrical installation. Please see OAR 918-282-0170(1b) for supervision requirements.

Electrician, General Supervising (S)
This license will permit the holder to perform any electrical installation when employed by either a licensed electrical contractor or an industrial plant. This license authorizes the holder to direct, supervise, perform, or control the making of any electrical installation.

 

[peter d]

What I've learned since is that most helpers need to be taught the real basics, such as how to strip wire, and how to make good connections and splices.

It's funny you mention that, because in the past a few of my friends got the "I want to learn how to be an electrician" idea in their head, so the very first thing I would show them is stripping, making twisted splices, and making the hooks to wrap around the screws on a device.

 

[emahler]

It's funny you mention that, because in the past a few of my friends got the "I want to learn how to be an electrician" idea in their head, so the very first thing I would show them is stripping, making twisted splices, and making the hooks to wrap around the screws on a device.

now i know you're lying....iwire is your only friend and he's already aces in my book