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ivsenroute said:
You guys are good, I would not expect any less.

Bonding jumper missing on the first photo

Actually those are 14's on the 2nd photo

The white wire is the GEC that you see to the right.
There are 2 different brands of breakers in the box. It is a GE panel.

There are a few more small things too
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White and gray colored conductors are restricted for identification of the grounded conductor. The GEC can be any other color
 
ivsenroute said:
The 14s on the 30s are for regular receptacle in this residential application.
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Hey. When the breaker panel replaced the fuse panlel they were ALL 30 amp fuses... obvioulsy they need to be 30 amp breakers :D
 
ivsenroute said:
You guys are good, I would not expect any less.

Bonding jumper missing on the first photo

Actually those are 14's on the 2nd photo

The white wire is the GEC that you see to the right.
There are 2 different brands of breakers in the box. It is a GE panel.
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That panel is a 1970's vintage ITE panel....
 
The thing I noticed after the obvious stuff in the panel is, Look at the wall to the right of the panel it looks like the original fuse box burned and charred the wall and joist around it. you think they would have learned some thing from that.
"Gee honey the house almost burned down, let me go see if I can finish the job, these 30 amp breakers on this old 14 wire ought to do it. Now lets just plug in everything we got and see what happens."
 
acrwc10 said:
The thing I noticed after the obvious stuff in the panel is, Look at the wall to the right of the panel it looks like the original fuse box burned and charred the wall and joist around it. you think they would have learned some thing from that.
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I think that is black paint.

At least, I hope it is black paint.....
 
ivsenroute said:
Below it is this:

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Here is an overall:

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phase conductors a/b just a little bit too long :D i didn't know that twisting the neutral shrunk up about 1 foot :D
 
Remember, can't tape grounded conductor smaller than #6 (per 200.6)

Yikes, #14 on the 30A! That GEC looks small. (#10 or 8?)
 
I like the 3' of wire going to the main with the
neutral that looks as tight as a bowstring right
behind it.Surprised they aren't stripped back
about 3"....
 
Yes, looks like a banjo string. To their credit that hole in the top is pluged. It's just a rusty snap-in blank.
 
Everyone of the cables should be sleeved with flex after leaving the bottom of the floor joist. That # 8 ground wire should be in half inch emt, if it were # 6 and came in the top, I would allow it. That SEU or SER cable feeding the panel has traveled some distance from the meter, so there should be a main on the other end and this should now be a sub-panel with a separate ground and neutral bar. And if the circuitry on a few of those circuits were split up and made into a few more circuits, we could do away with those 30tys !This is why we have codes !
 
David C. Adkins said:
Everyone of the cables should be sleeved with flex after leaving the bottom of the floor joist. That # 8 ground wire should be in half inch emt, if it were # 6 and came in the top, I would allow it. That SEU or SER cable feeding the panel has traveled some distance from the meter, so there should be a main on the other end and this should now be a sub-panel with a separate ground and neutral bar. And if the circuitry on a few of those circuits were split up and made into a few more circuits, we could do away with those 30tys !This is why we have codes !
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maybe in your part of the country, but the NEC doesn't require any of what you are saying. Are you trying to be judge and jury?
 
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