When is a bedroom not a bedroom anymore?

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ibew613 said:
In order for a bedroom to be considered a bedroom it must have a closet. The closet can have door or not, but on appraisal for the appraiser to give bedroom status this is a must. Walk in see the closet this is your bedroom. Nec does not make rule but your players on the secondary mortgage market such as Freddie, Fannie, FHA, VA hold true to this.
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You are opening a can of worms with the closet statement.This has been debated here many times with no results.Our inspectors say if there is a closet there will be a smoke detector installed since it can be used as a bedroom.Be it a den,game room etc if there is a closet there will be a smoke detector installed.
In one post i read that the distance is 15 ft. Not here the rules go 10 ft from the bedroom door,Not within 3 ft of a forced air vent, not within 3 ft of a bathroom door.within 4 ins trimmed out of the highest point of the ceiling, one at the highest point in the house,one at the bottom of the stair landing.Since we don`t have basements we don`t worry about them.
 
Here in the "Peoples Republic of Massachusetts " it is the "regulated" that decide what the space is, I wonder for how long??
I posted this in the thread on stairways ,.. I thought it was this thread sorry.

Question 7: 780 CMR 3603.16.13 requires that an existing one- or two-family dwelling be provided with a household fire warning system for new construction when one or more sleeping rooms are added or created in the existing dwelling. What constitutes a bedroom under this Section?


Answer 7: The State Board of Building Regulations and Standards (BBRS), as the Agency promulgating the Massachusetts State Building Code, is the ?AUTHORITY HAVING JURISDICTION? (AHJ) regarding the interpretation of regulations of the State Building Code and has determined that it is the responsibility of the building owner or the agent of the building owner to identify any new or newly created bedrooms or other space USES. If submitted plans and/or narratives that describe the work intended identify such new additions or newly created spaces as other than bedrooms then 780 CMR 3603.16.13 does not apply (note that it is the ?REGULATED COMMUNITY? and not the ?REGULATOR? who identifies, on plans and/or narratives submitted as part of the building permit application to the Building Department, if a bedroom is being added or created).
 
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I have run across this open bedroom with no doors between closet and bathroom. I error on the side of casution and consider everything to be AFCI protected.
 
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