Why are there so few women in our trade?

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I am a female sparky, i can only speak for myself, but it is hard to stay in a trade where
it seems the expectations of what i am capable of are set at a very low bar, even before i've had a chance to perform. Also, on most jobs i start , the foreman usually assumes i am an apprentice. Tasks given to me are usually meticulous, redundant or outright stereotypical(i.e., sweeping, cleaning up piles of scrap, etc.), so the experience i
have aquired is not as complete as most electricians that are of the opposite gender.
All that being said, i still have been lucky with a couple of mentors that taught me so
very much and had faith in my ability. I love my trade, and each job i approach with a
positive attitude, and i have certainly had some jobs i loved, others, not so much. But
i believe strongly that the knowledge one should aquire in the trades is completely incumbant upon that person, so i read all these threads, and take classes when i can, and
go to the next job with a positive outlook, eager to work and learn. It was easy getting in
the trade, very difficult to stay in. Also, all female construction workers are not lesbians,
even if they do turn you down for a date!

One main difference perhaps is the emotional makeup difference between man and woman. I know it sounds stereotyping, but it is a pretty well established fact. Due to the physiological difference between man and woman, namely that women is 'designed' to bear and raise children, they are much more emotionally relate to anything they do than men does. Just see the comment: "I love my job" and ask man and women what does that actually mean to them.

So I would venture to guess that when you are emotionally invested in the work you do and do not get the emotional reward you seek, you would get pretty discouraged. Man sees it as and competes in work. Weather is to beat another man or beat technolgy itself is his game. The competition is akin to contest and its most severe from is war.
 

LarryFine

Master Electrician Electric Contractor Richmond VA
Location
Henrico County, VA
Occupation
Electrical Contractor
We had one young lady come to work for us in twenty five years--and on a scale of one to ten, she was about a twelve !!!

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Come to find out, that was the real reason she left work both days at lunch time--she has swimming classes every afternoon!
Oh, so she was a 12 in looks. I was wondering why you complained about her so much after that rating.
 

charlietuna

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The "12" was her rating concerning looks -- Blonde-blue eyes-perfect body and a dark tan !! But i wasn't running a beauty contest. I was trying to do electrical work for my customers. Her work rating was about a minus two!:grin:
 

Mule

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Location
Oklahoma
Alot of people dont realize how physical electrical work is...small frame individuals just dont have the muscle and body weight that medium to large frame people have. I've seen larger frame women that can work, and work hard.

In general, Women IMO have better focus and attention to detail than most men. They also have a better sense of mental commitment than some men....But obviously electrical work, is quite the cultural shock physicaly to most women starting out, but I think the right female can do just as good as a male given the chance...
 

CopperTone

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MetroWest, MA
Seems to me that if (roughly) half the population is female, there would be more working in the craft than what actually is. I'm curious if anyone has any insight as to why there are so few women in this trade?

No one knows - and who really cares. If it is a problem for anyone then you are in the wrong country.
 

Cow

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Location
Eastern Oregon
Occupation
Electrician
I'm at least a "12" in looks myself, so I'd say she would have been a perfect match for me. I can't date someone who is less attractive than I am.

I can't decide if this sounds more like "Shallow Hal" or Ben Stiller in "Zoolander?"


:smile:
 

haskindm

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Maryland
So we are trying to figure out why women are not attracted to a trade where you get to work in miserable conditions, are likely to be laid off with little or no notice, are constantly exposed to danger, expected to work long hours and weekends "in order to get the job done", only to be laid off when the work runs out?

What is amazing sometimes is that we can get ANYBODY to work in construction. While it can be a very rewarding field, there are many people that are forced to work in very poor conditions. The construction industry as a whole needs to work on improving its image. We need to stop treating people as machines. Can anyone really work 6, 12-hour days per week and be productive? Yet that is exactly what many skilled workers were being forced to do when construction was booming in this area. Now that things are slow, many of those same people, that practically killed themselves to keep up with the work, are now laid off. Thanks for your efforts, but we don't need you anymore!

The electrical trade has been good to me, but fortunately I was able to take the skills that I developed and move on to a position where I no longer need to work "in the trenches". It is a good thing that I did, because now I am partially disabled and would not be able to work in the field. I did NOT encourage my sons to follow my footsteps and am very thankful that they both have careers that are not as volatile and unpredictable as construction.

If the working conditions could be improved more talented young people of all races and both genders would be attracted to the trades. Despite what many people think, it is not just about the money. Yes, you can make good money in construction, but there are many ways that a talented, intelligent person can make good money; and many of them are less dangerous, less strenuous, and more predictable than being an electrician.

I have worked in the pouring rain in mud above my knees to install the electrical service in a building so that the concrete floor could be poured, only to have the floor postponed for a month because "it was too wet". I have worked in a snowstorm in a house with no windows or doors so the GC could get the "draw" that was due when the rough-wire was complete. I have worked nights, and weekends to complete a building so that the GC could put up a sign bragging that "he" had completed the building in 120 days. It was funny, but I never saw him there at midnight or on a Saturday! I will do anything that I can to help someone out in an emergency, but it seems most "emergencies" in construction are caused by poor planning or undercapitalization.

You don't need to look far to see why people are not flocking to become part of this trade. Things could be improved so much with so little effort and expense....
 

resistance

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Location
WA
I've only seen two.

Out of that two, I only worked with one female electrical apprentice on a very large project. I seen nothing but respect for her being there. One day she got upset (not with me), and lied on the entire male crew working on the site.:roll: The owner put her in-charge of the entire site. All she had to do was take material orders, and make note of who's doing what and where. Note: We had five J-men on the site.
 

daleuger

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Location
earth
I've only seen two.

Out of that two, I only worked with one female electrical apprentice on a very large project. I seen nothing but respect for her being there. One day she got upset (not with me), and lied on the entire male crew working on the site.:roll: The owner put her in-charge of the entire site. All she had to do was take material orders, and make note of who's doing what and where. Note: We had five J-men on the site.

So he he got a wannabe foreman out of it for less than half price. The only way to beat that by very much is slave labour. :D

I'm sure you guys made her life on that job really interesting after that.
 
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