bradleyelectric
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- forest hill, md
When we don't have power I'm going to want to know how we ended up there with noone checking the Honda for gas.
what method --driving ground rods?
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When we don't have power I'm going to want to know how we ended up there with noone checking the Honda for gas.
hurk27
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- Portage, Indiana NEC: 2008
Good question
I know here in Indiana Ufers are only required in new construction, and then only if availble. like someone remember to put one in the foundation before the concrete pour, so its not widely inforced, but it is true with a ufer ground rod is no longer required. but in older house upgrades we will be pounding rods for a long time
Ohmy
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- Atlanta, GA
I'll breakout the generator for a service change, but not to drive a ground rod for T-pole.
Ohmy
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- Atlanta, GA
Service changes....of course. How you think these guys afford the fancy tools?
The Iceman
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- Florida
In Florida we use our hands or a hammer. One time I hit the ground rod with a sledge and lost the rod in the ground. In California I always used a Hilti.
In California I always used a Hilti.
Ohmy
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- Atlanta, GA
Drive the rods before you tear the old service apart.
haha....not if a tree got there first. I guess there is always the house next door, but we are trying to be professional and all.
I would have no problem giving the neighbor a 5-spot in order to use 3? worth of electricity in order to save half an hour and my lower back.
Odds are, that's where the HO is getting power from anyway to keep his fridge running.
donselectric
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- nh
why dont you have power......:roll:
Ohmy
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- Atlanta, GA
Then your out your lunch money and a workout
Generator is the way to go on the services changes through. Powers your batteries, lights, etc. Plus, we have started plugging in the fridge for the home owner (not like anything is going to go bad in a few hours). We get a good reaction from that.
Then your out your lunch money and a workout
I'm more than compensated for a Lincoln. While you're sweating away, looking forward to getting it through 30" of frost, I'm looking forward to lunch.
I never have the power off long enough during a service change for the fridge to be a problem. Unless someone like to stand in front of it with the door open for 10 minutes trying to decide what they want.
Mr.Sparkle
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- Jersey Shore
Drive the rods before you tear the old service apart.
Sometimes the answer is right in front of you.........I am not gonna say this comment did not make me go........."Ohhhh yeah...wow?.....yeah......boy sometimes I am dumb."
Ohmy
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- Atlanta, GA
I am glad to hear you are well paid for your work. I don't advocate hammers either, just saying they have their place.
Ohmy
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- Atlanta, GA
Sometimes the answer is right in front of you.........I am not gonna say this comment did not make me go........."Ohhhh yeah...wow?.....yeah......boy sometimes I am dumb."
I actually wrote it down in my good ideas book.
No, that's the GRVAD (ground rod vertical adjustment device).
No, never. Sometimes all they have in stock are the 8' 6" rods.
New construction = ufers. Service upgrades = ground rods, if no ufer present. Usually, the rods are driven first thing before POCO disconnects.
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quogueelectric
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- new york
I use the geico cavemen to bang it in with a rock. Its so easy a caveman can do it.
Mr.Sparkle
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- Jersey Shore
Only the mushroom head at the very top but it sure beats wailing with a hammer.
vinster888
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- Nature Coast of Florida
(G) Rod and Pipe Electrodes. The electrode shall be installed
such that at least 2.44 m (8 ft) of length is in contact
with the soil. It shall be driven to a depth of not less than
2.44 m (8 ft) except that, where rock bottom is encountered,
the electrode shall be driven at an oblique angle not
to exceed 45 degrees from the vertical or, where rock bottom
is encountered at an angle up to 45 degrees, the electrode
shall be permitted to be buried in a trench that is at
least 750 mm (30 in.) deep. The upper end of the electrode
shall be flush with or below ground level unless the aboveground
end and the grounding electrode conductor attachment
are protected against physical damage as specified in
250.10.
so the GRVAD is a fully necessary item at times.
such that at least 2.44 m (8 ft) of length is in contact
with the soil. It shall be driven to a depth of not less than
2.44 m (8 ft) except that, where rock bottom is encountered,
the electrode shall be driven at an oblique angle not
to exceed 45 degrees from the vertical or, where rock bottom
is encountered at an angle up to 45 degrees, the electrode
shall be permitted to be buried in a trench that is at
least 750 mm (30 in.) deep. The upper end of the electrode
shall be flush with or below ground level unless the aboveground
end and the grounding electrode conductor attachment
are protected against physical damage as specified in
250.10.
so the GRVAD is a fully necessary item at times.
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