When your at the meeting talking to all the EV experts can you please find out if any EV's / EVSE do require a neutral in 2025? And if not can they please switch to a 6-50?
They don’t, but manufacturers put that plug on for portable use at campgrounds. I wouldn’t think anybody would run a cord through a window to plug into a stove outlet. Don’t know of any EV’s that ever needed a neutral. Early on there was some charge controllers that needed a neutral for the contactor because the manufacturer did not make a 208/240 rated contactor. Eaton was one of them.
how- if I am changing a panel I bring it to code. Don’t modify the circuits how can they force me to change something that was once complaint and still is , that I touch it. It’s not even close to my scope of job.
Except that this amendment has nothing to do with installing 14-50 receptacles.
How might that complicate things for lawsuits when attorneys, judges even juries might need to take testimony evidence that quotes content from NEC?
It already says it throughout the book just make the whole book say it. I am being facetious by the way.
I think this is intended for economic stimulus purpose as well. I think the enforcement/preventive comes from tying government or utility incentives on EV and/or charger subsidies to permit records.
That would be unfair.
And as far as I'm concerned it is that way so far.
Where inside wiring fails on panel flipper’s who refuses to touch that can of worms, owner must hire someone else to pass the inside inspection.
I can confidently say, based on both experience and the task at hand, that there is no commercial EVSE
Yes. And that's the issue.
Another good point. There are a lot of inspectors that really aren't "qualified" in any way for some of the things they end up inspecting yet they still have the authority to pass or reject those installations. Kind of goes the same way for me as the contractor though. I may run into things on occasion that I have little to know prior experience with, but I can usually find some material to familiarize myself on the item as well as find what code sections will apply to that item, so is that enough to qualify me to install it or not? There is a difference between installing a self contained item and actually designing or repairing said item as well.
You’ve never installed an Eaton commercial charger. They did at one time, don’t know if they still do, but the contactor inside has a 120 volt coil. Eaton engineers said they (Eaton) did not make a contactor with a 208/240 coil. Only straight 208 or 240 volt coils. They may have changed it by now.
FWIW, the current installation guide for Eaton's "Green Motion Building Pro" EVSE shows only L1, L2, and EGC connections.
