Washington Administrators License - looking for advice on study materials/approach

[letgomywago]

I have never understood why Washington and Alaska use the term 'administrator' to mean master electrician.

WA it means you know it not that your necessary have hands on experience with it. It's a different take for sure though but I could see a large business being more inline with it than someone to work their way up from the trade only.

 

[tom baker]

I have never understood why Washington and Alaska use the term 'administrator' to mean master electrician.

In WA the administrator is the person who is responsible for the company complying with state electrical laws and rules. The
Administrator does not have to be a certified electrician but if not an electrician can’t touch the tools.
But then in 2005 Washington set up master electrician certification, a master is electrician + administrator.
In small companies the administrator is the only electrician.

 

[frannypanny]

In WA the administrator is the person who is responsible for the company complying with state electrical laws and rules. The
Administrator does not have to be a certified electrician but if not an electrician can’t touch the tools.
But then in 2005 Washington set up master electrician certification, a master is electrician + administrator.
In small companies the administrator is the only electrician.

So even though I’m not an electrician I still have to take the Master Electrician test? Meaning that’s what I should be studying?

 

[quantum`]

Wow, I was just about to ask this very question about Admin. What a wealth of knowledge here.

In WA the administrator is the person who is responsible for the company complying with state electrical laws and rules. The Administrator does not have to be a certified electrician but if not an electrician can’t touch the tools.
But then in 2005 Washington set up master electrician certification, a master is electrician + administrator.
In small companies the administrator is the only electrician.

I'm not clear on what this means? My understanding is that an Admin is allowed to hire a Journey and the Journey does the work. But you say for small companies the Admin does the work?

I am badly in need of money, but the CITC course sounds great. I wonder what the passing rate of their students is?

What NEC year is WA currently under?

 

[electrofelon]

Wow, I was just about to ask this very question about Admin. What a wealth of knowledge here.


I'm not clear on what this means? My understanding is that an Admin is allowed to hire a Journey and the Journey does the work. But you say for small companies the Admin does the work?

I am badly in need of money, but the CITC course sounds great. I wonder what the passing rate of their students is?

What NEC year is WA currently under?

In Washington state, to be in the electrical business, you need need to be an electrical contractor. There is no experience or test required for this application. Then every electrical contracting business needs to have an administrator assigned to the company. The administrator license is just a test, no experience required. The electrical administrator licensed does not give you any allowance to do installations. You either need to also be, or hire a licensed electrician to work with the tools. So if you are a licensed electrical contractor with an administrator's license, you can "be in business" and pull permits, but you can't do any of the work, you would have to hire or sub that out.

 

[quantum`]

Ah, Ok, fair enough. I find that there's no CITC course until July, so it's self study for me.

No problem getting an electrical contractor's license, I've been a GC for 45 years. Now, with a contractor's and an Admin, can I hire -Apprentices- to do the work? Or does it have to be a Journey?

Anyone know which NEC WA is currently under?

 

[electrofelon]

Ah, Ok, fair enough. I find that there's no CITC course until July, so it's self study for me.

No problem getting an electrical contractor's license, I've been a GC for 45 years. Now, with a contractor's and an Admin, can I hire -Apprentices- to do the work? Or does it have to be a Journey?

Anyone know which NEC WA is currently under?

Just forgot to mention the one thing you do need for the electrical contractor is a surety bond for $4,000.

No apprentices cannot work unsupervised, you would need a journeyman. Again, note you can pull permits and schedule inspections without having a journeyman on staff, it's only if the unlicensed person was caught / asked for their license that would end the party.

WA is under the 2023 NEC

 

[quantum`]

Thanks, I'm sure I'll be scrutinized as the inspector knows I'd wired my own house.

On eBat I find tons of NFPA 70 2023 NEC Code Books. And lots of tabs, some saying "140 pcs wire chart", "Book tabs for NFPA", "With Wi", etc. Recommendations? Does the Quick Card help? Def want the Code spiral-bound.