50% copper tariff just imposed

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Big Orange for 12/2 NM cable here today is at:
1000'= $456 ($.46/foot)
250'=$129 ($.52/foot)
100'= $99 ($.99/foot)

 

[kwired]

Big Orange for 12/2 NM cable here today is at:
1000'= $456 ($.46/foot)
250'=$129 ($.52/foot)
100'= $99 ($.99/foot)

Price per foot only gets higher as you get into those 15 and 25 foot packages of any size cable.

My supply house will cut 8 AWG and larger. Cut price is a little higher than full reel prices per foot, but not as extreme as big box price per foot on their shorter length pre packaged items. If i need 8-3 or 6-3 NM cable it pretty much always comes from supply house. Even longer length packages are still usually less than big box prices on the larger cables.

 

[ptonsparky]

Big Orange for 12/2 NM cable here today is at:
1000'= $456 ($.46/foot)
250'=$129 ($.52/foot)
100'= $99 ($.99/foot)

Wow. I used to charge $0.12 per foot. 100 or 1000.

Yes, some of you weren't even a gleam in your Dad's eye yet.

 

[rambojoe]

A 45 minute wait is pretty normal for caged items I our area

The code is 1111! Yer welcome.
Last thing recent security guards want to do is run after a thief anyways

 

[Rick 0920]

I'm lucky that I live in a city where I can avoid the big box stores altogether. CED, CES, Rexel and Graybar deliver right to the shop!

 

[kwired]

I'm lucky that I live in a city where I can avoid the big box stores altogether. CED, CES, Rexel and Graybar deliver right to the shop!

So does my supply houses and I'm about 40 miles away from both of them. They don't necessarily come on daily basis but have regular routes and you get stuff on their scheduled days they come to your area. I'm kind of in a sweet spot where they usually come through here twice a week, but go in different directions beyond here on the different days.

They will deliver right to a job site as well if not too far out of their normal path, or if they have a rather significant amount or cost of items to drop off.

 

[hillbilly1]

They won't need to. The Home Depots in the "nicer" areas are now locking up all wire and the breakers. Spray paint will be next.

The thieves are willing to travel, here, they come out of Atlanta, and hit stores all the way up the interstate.

 

[grich]

Our local Menards has nothing under lock & key that I have looked for. Go 45 miles East to HD and it's a mixed bag.
Same thing for our local Walmart. Nothing but guns & ammo is locked. Go East or West and makeup may be locked up. (MDSW tells me)

One of our Walmarts has headlight bulbs locked up. For awhile, this store had makeup in a special walled-off area with its own checkout register.

 

[junkhound]

Or have it shipped to your house.

Around here, the thieves follow UPS, Prime, and FedEx trucks.

steal anything that might buy some drugs......

Even steal from USPS, had a $20 item j us t last month when the lazy substitute mailman left it sit on the street by the box when it did not fit in the box....am in area of million $$ houses, not trailer park...

 

[electrofelon]

Big Orange just lowered 14/2 12/2 and 14/3
two days ago.

It was a substantial decrease.

Seems like lately big Orange has had horrible pricing on ramen, I don't remember them being so much higher than everywhere else

 

[Rock86]

They won't need to. The Home Depots in the "nicer" areas are now locking up all wire and the breakers. Spray paint will be next.

Spray paint has been locked up for years already in my area.

 

[ptonsparky]

My grandson couldn't buy a can spray paint but he could buy the knife he wanted.

 

[hillbilly1]

The price usually goes up immediately. Even though they have an existing inventory that the tariff doesn’t affect. When that sells out, they have to replace it with the higher tariff inventory, then when the tariff comes off, they are stuck with it. While the companies that didn’t restock, buys it at the lower price to resell. Expect shortages because of that. Had a buddy that owned a gas station that didn’t do that. He went under because his gas prices were higher than the competition because he had expensive gas still in the ground, and had to sell at a loss.

 

[rc/retired]

My grandson couldn't buy a can spray paint but he could buy the knife he wanted.

As it should be. IMO

Ron

 

[nizak]

The thieves are willing to travel, here, they come out of Atlanta, and hit stores all the way up the interstate.

H.D. doesn’t follow a standard when it comes to getting wire out of the cage.

Associates are supposed to “walk it up” and place it at the checkout.

I frequent 3-4 different stores weekly. All different. All within a 59 Mike radius of each other.

-Certain associates are adamant about following procedure.
- Some will do it one day and the next day hand it to me .
-Some have consistently never walked it up.

Fairly certain associates can get written up or possibly dismissed if they don’t do it.

Might all come down to who’s the Manager. Everyone runs their ship a little different

 

[Jraef]

The US imports about 45% of it's copper. One would ask can the existing domestic copper mines actually provide that 45% if we only purchased domestically mined copper?

They can MINE more maybe, but they cannot REFINE more than the capacity of their existing plants. One of my customers killed plans for expanding a copper mine a few years ago because they would not have been able to refine it once they got it out of the ground. Increasing the refining capacity will take YEARS and billions. I can imagine that companies will be adverse to risking that investment, because in 3-1/2 years (or sooner), it could be a different regulatory environment and all that investment will have gone for naught...

 

[hillbilly1]

H.D. doesn’t follow a standard when it comes to getting wire out of the cage.

Associates are supposed to “walk it up” and place it at the checkout.

I frequent 3-4 different stores weekly. All different. All within a 59 Mike radius of each other.

-Certain associates are adamant about following procedure.
- Some will do it one day and the next day hand it to me .
-Some have consistently never walked it up.

Fairly certain associates can get written up or possibly dismissed if they don’t do it.

Might all come down to who’s the Manager. Everyone runs their ship a little different

My son is the department head over electrical and plumbing, and he still has to walk me up! LOL!

 

[ModbusMan]

companies will be adverse to risking that investment, because in 3-1/2 years (or sooner), it could be a different regulatory environment and all that investment will have gone for naught...

And this right here is the crux of the problem... without consistent policies, nobody wants to do anything.

 

[BarryO]

They can MINE more maybe, but they cannot REFINE more than the capacity of their existing plants. One of my customers killed plans for expanding a copper mine a few years ago because they would not have been able to refine it once they got it out of the ground. Increasing the refining capacity will take YEARS and billions. I can imagine that companies will be adverse to risking that investment, because in 3-1/2 years (or sooner), it could be a different regulatory environment and all that investment will have gone for naught...

I heard a news story that said there are only 2 copper smelting plants currently operating in the U.S. Restarting a mothballed plant is at least a year and a half, and constructing a new one takes a decade. And yes, who wants to spend those billions when the free trade agreement we had with Chile for copper could be re-instated on a whim sometime in the future.

 

[VirutalElectrician]

Or have it shipped to your house.

Around here, the thieves follow UPS, Prime, and FedEx trucks.

steal anything that might buy some drugs......

Even steal from USPS, had a $20 item j us t last month when the lazy substitute mailman left it sit on the street by the box when it did not fit in the box....am in area of million $$ houses, not trailer park...

Had UPS drop a $500 roll of 3/0 copper right at the end of my driveway because he was too lazy to carry it any further. I was not pleased.