14/4 romex

[Federico]

This is more of a thought why these days might be a good idea to use 14/4 Romax for a shared neutral circuit one white and one gray

 

[retirede]

That doesn’t make sense. If you have 2 neutrals, the circuits don’t share a neutral.

 

[Federico]

Sorry, I posted it too fast. I meant to eliminate a shared neutral.

 

[Federico]

That doesn’t make sense. If you have 2 neutrals, the circuits don’t

 

[retirede]

If the circuits are on a GFCI and/or AFCI breaker, you will either need separate neutrals or a 2 pole breaker. This relates to your other thread. It is a design decision.

 

[Federico]

Sorry, thank you my bad

 

[Federico]

If the circuits are on a GFCI and/or AFCI breaker, you will either need separate neutrals or a 2 pole breaker. This relates to your other thread. It is a design decision.

Sounds good. I will keep that in my notes

 

[infinity]

I'm in favor of these cables (12-2-2) for AFCI/GFCI home runs especially for things like the kitchen where you'll need multiple 20 amp circuits.

 

[don_resqcapt19]

If the circuits are on a GFCI and/or AFCI breaker, you will either need separate neutrals or a 2 pole breaker.

While that always applies to GFCIs, in many cases two single pole AFCIs with handle ties can be used for a multiwire branch circuit.

 

[Federico]

Good point GFI could be used in the kitchens and arc fault in BRANCH circuits (great idea)
I’m just surprised by now. That share neutral is not in the code book to make it not be used for safety issues.(because I’ve open neutral.)

 

[James L]

This is more of a thought why these days might be a good idea to use 14/4 Romax for a shared neutral circuit one white and one gray

14-2-2 instead of 14-4 (Infinity mentioned 12-2-2, which would be the 20 amp version)

14-4 would almost certainly be black, white, red and BLUE

14-2-2 is black, white, red, and WHITE w/ red tracer

 

[retirede]

While that always applies to GFCIs, in many cases two single pole AFCIs with handle ties can be used for a multiwire branch circuit.

Good point….now that the GFCI function has been removed from AFCIs.

 

[Federico]

14-2-2 instead of 14-4 (Infinity mentioned 12-2-2, which would be the 20 amp version)

14-4 would almost certainly be black, white, red and BLUE

14-2-2 is black, white, red, and WHITE w/ red tracer

Correct thank you

 

[readydave8]

share neutral is not in the code book to make it not be used for safety issues.

Yeah I been noticing a lot of people falling over dead on account of this

 

[ActionDave]

Good point GFI could be used in the kitchens and arc fault in BRANCH circuits (great idea)
I’m just surprised by now. That share neutral is not in the code book to make it not be used for safety issues.(because I’ve open neutral.)

You do realize that MWBC has been the most common way to run a circuit since Edison did it in the 1800s, yes? They were never a problem till 2008 when a bunch of hand wringers got their way and the code changed.

 

[Federico]

You do realize that MWBC has been the most common way to run a circuit since Edison did it in the 1800s, yes? They were never a problem till 2008 when a bunch of hand wringers got their way and the code changed.

 

[Federico]

Hello Action Dave yes, I remember I started in 1980. This new stuff codes getting changed great ideas. I was just wondering