From the way your question (including assumption in parenthesis) is worded, it seems that you fed the panel with one 120v feed, wired directly to a single pole breaker to backfeed the panel and installed the required breaker hold down bracket. Is that correct?Has anyone ever been violated for installing 1 single pole breakers in a 8 circuit MLO panel at a residential accessory structure? (assume breaker had required hold down).
You may interpret that as an abuse of power, I don't agree. I see it as his interpretation of the requirement, and not without merit. Every time you disagree with an inspector does not necessarily constitute an abuse of power on his part. I would consider it an abuse if the inspector was requiring something that he thought was not required or if he did not require something that he knew was required.To me,that just adds more power to a person who is abusing the power intrusted in him/her in the first place.
This is goofy thinking (IMO).Reminds of years ago, we had an 8' wireway with 2 100A fusible disconnects for a 6-disconnect service. Inspector rejected because we had the "potential" to install many more.
Yes you are, but each building must have a disconnecting means at the building being supplied per 225.31 and 225.32.If there is a main at that panel, this the accessory building becomes a sub-panel and would not be required to met the 6 switch limit. Am I picturing the installation correctly?
This is goofy too (IMO).Originally posted by websparky:
Let's say the electrician had a spare 42 circuit MLO panel and installed it in the same location with the same breakers as the original post.
Would this also be acceptable?
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Absolutely.
If that were correct, the single breaker would be a main and there would be no need for this thread. I think that the main lugs are fed from the soruce and the breaker serves a single load at the panel location.From the way your question (including assumption in parenthesis) is worded, it seems that you fed the panel with one 120v feed, wired directly to a single pole breaker to backfeed the panel and installed the required breaker hold down bracket. Is that correct?
Yes Don, I agree with you. I was just trying toIf that were correct, the single breaker would be a main and there would be no need for this thread. I think that the main lugs are fed from the soruce and the breaker serves a single load at the panel location.
1. 225.331. What code section would you cite?
2. Would you hold a grudge after losing their appeal?
Roger225.33 Maximum Number of Disconnects
(A) General The disconnecting means for each supply permitted by 225.30 shall consist of not more than six switches or six circuit breakers mounted in a single enclosure, in a group of separate enclosures, or in or on a switchboard. There shall be no more than six disconnects per supply grouped in any one location.
That is pretty much a definition for abuse of power and if that is how you do your job you should be fired ASAP.Originally posted by geezer:
This is goofy too (IMO).Originally posted by websparky:
Let's say the electrician had a spare 42 circuit MLO panel and installed it in the same location with the same breakers as the original post.
Would this also be acceptable?
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Absolutely.
If I were inspecting the job, I would require a main breaker and main breaker hold down. I would sleep just fine, not feel at all as though I was abusive, and you have the option to appeal to my boss, to the local construction board of appeals, to the state construction board of appeals, and to the civil courts.
And if I were the EC, I would do exactly that.Originally posted by engy:
If I were inspecting the job, I would require a main breaker and main breaker hold down. I would sleep just fine, not feel at all as though I was abusive, and you have the option to appeal to my boss, to the local construction board of appeals, to the state construction board of appeals, and to the civil courts.
Really? How about I just give back that big raise I just got?That is pretty much a definition for abuse of power and if that is how you do your job you should be fired ASAP.
Originally posted by geezer:
Really? How about I just give back that big raise I just got?![]()
So congratulations on your raise.![]()
Calm down guys. Let's say I'm both wrong andIf I were inspecting the job, I would require a main breaker and main breaker hold down. I would sleep just fine, not feel at all as though I was abusive, and you have the option to appeal to my boss, to the local construction board of appeals, to the state construction board of appeals, and to the civil courts.