- Location
- Illinois
- Occupation
- retired electrician
Without motor output information the reduction in real power means nothing.
I want to for the laughs.
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I^2R LSS:lol:
Yea, I looked. The test itself was not on line, but the stated results were. That is of no value whatsoever. There was no description of the testing method, nor the wiring diagram, nor the test procedure, nor the recorded test measurements. The only thing available was a letter, which there is no reason to accept as being authentic, and a table of numbers, which there is no reason to accept as being accurate. I could not tell, for example, whether any stated value of KW, KVAR, or power factor was a recorded measurement or a calculated value based on recorded measurements. I checked the values by doing a few calculations of my own, and discovered that they are not consistent with each other.The actual test can be found online.
The nlcpr is a business. They are hardly creditable.
Your company is a business. I infer that you are hardly creditable as well.
My teachers at the University of Notre Dame and the Illinois Institute of Technology thank you. Now please allow me to point out that you misspelled ?harmonic? one out of four attempts, and also misspelled ?misspellings? and ?absorbing.? Were you going to get around to answering my question about your credentials, or my challenge regarding your company?s guarantee?Thanks for pointing out the mispellings which makes me feel better your education wasn't a total flop!
The average optimized PF after install is .95 lag.
That?s odd. I would have guessed that the average household PF, without any correction equipment installed, would have been closer to .98 lag. There are not a lot of homes with the 10 horsepower motor that was used in the (alleged) NASA test.
Thanks for pointing out the mispellings which makes me feel better your education wasn't a total flop!
I don't think the home unit saves by supplying VAR's but by obsorbing harmonic distortion and reducing the heat that distortion causes from household equipment.
I will also like to point out that caps do not create harmonic distortion but when put in lead the harmonics are amplified. The energy saver only puts around 6-8 amps of reactive current into the system. The average optimized PF after install is .95 lag.
I think the intended meaning was that harmonics are a cause of excessive heating, that a capacitor can smooth out the waveform, thereby reducing harmonics, with the conclusion being that installing the capacitor will reduce heating in household appliances. I say that as an attempt at interpretation, not by way of agreeing or disagreeing with the concept.Please explain how absorbing "harmonic distortion" causes heating, what it heats, and why that matters. I also don't follow the last part about "causes from household equipment."
More information is needed. The formula is that VARS equals the square of voltage, times two pi, times the frequency, times the value of the capacitance. For a 480 volt, 60 hertz system, you would get 800 VAR from a 9.2 microfarad capacitor.(Bonus question for someone else- how much capacitance is needed to generate 800VAR? WAG says about 150mF, which would be a large-ish consumer device.)
For a 480 volt, 60 hertz system, you would get 800 VAR from a 9.2 microfarad capacitor.
Anybody else want some popcorn? Its going to be a good show.
I don't switch and plug.
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I^2R LSS:lol:
Nothing I have found shows the work that is being done by the motor. Without some measurement of the actual work, there is zero meaning to any electrical load information.The actual test can be found online. I just copied a bit off a PDF. I can't keep spoon feeding you skeptics but I want to for the laughs. KVAR NASA TEST. This is my profession, I don't switch and plug. Ive been in some panels that will make most your old hearts skip a beat! You can pick a part my sentences but the only thing you have not done was show me a warm welcome that I expected. lol
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I^2R LSS:lol:
I know you know this but let's not go there as that is not really the issue. Someone could have enough pedigrees to wall-paper their house. What really matters is what is said.What, may I ask, are your professional credentials?
I'll grant that there has been a lot of poking at you with sticks and I can understand your lashing out. I promise you the best way to defend yourself is with facts. On that note, I have seen a lot of name-dropping and such, but no substantial information.Thank you for the grammar lesson and you struck first with the cheap shot.
You can pick a part my sentences
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I^2R LSS
My home has only one of the things on this list: a pair of desktop computers. Care to explain to me how the harmonics created in those two items causes so much excess heat that it is costing me more than $15 a month just to pay for that wasted heat?? Computers, especially PCs
? Computer Terminals and Work Stations
? Computer Peripherals and Modems
? Word Processors
? Copy Machines
? Facsimile
? Teletype
? Telephone PBX
? Heat Pumps and Air Conditioners
? Adjustable Speed Drives
? Rectifiers
? Fluorescent Lights (including electronic ballasts)
a part my sentences
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I^2R LSS:lol: