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ItsHot said:
I considered installing plastic safety receptacle caps, but never could seem to schedule an outage to do so! I did not want to work them hot! (as per osha requirements)

LOL :grin:

Glad to hear you did not risk it. :grin:

FWIW there was a time when OSHA wanted to come into our homes but someone (Congress / Senate?) put a stop to that.
 
I raised my 2 girls without any plug caps. I was raised along with 6 siblings and 2 foster siblings in a house with no plug caps OR GFCI receptacles and nobody got zapped. But then again, that was back when kids stood up in the car to see better, slept in the back window of the Impala on long trips, hitched to town to see a movie, went door to door selling candy/flower seeds for 4-H by themselves and rode their bikes without helmets. My parent's house never had a lock on the front or back doors. Things are different now.
 
I have 3 girls in my house and myself and their mother we always watch them closely and when they get little older they relized how dangerous it was if messing around and seems they listen to us pretty well with safety so far no side effect with it.

I went thru few plastic plug caps and where the kids like to mess around either i remove the repetale and put a blank cover for while until they get older then put back the repectale.

Ceiling luminiares.,, well i think i will leave this to diffrent time lol.,,

Merci, Marc
 
You ain't lived until you get zapped at least once from curiosity and a hot receptacle.... :grin:

I learned the hard way so to speak, while playing with a clock cord, plugging it in and pulling it out. On one attempt, got my finger caught behind the plug, and across the 2 prongs. OUCH!

FWIW, a "tamper-resistant" outlet would not have helped me in that instance, since both prongs of the plug were being inserted at the same time.
 
kbsparky said:
FWIW, a "tamper-resistant" outlet would not have helped me in that instance, since both prongs of the plug were being inserted at the same time.


This may not be true. I was actually pluging in a work light today that was switched on. The plug has to go in fairly deep before contact is made. A finger might not fit in the that space.

If there is a kid around Monday I'll test this out. :grin:
 
amptech said:
. . .that was back when kids stood up in the car to see better, slept in the back window of the Impala on long trips, hitched to town to see a movie, went door to door selling candy/flower seeds for 4-H by themselves and rode their bikes without helmets. My parent's house never had a lock on the front or back doors. Things are different now.
Boy, isn't that it.

I grew up in that same place.

Nice summary.
 
Not to change the flow here ,I just realized something, I grew up in Europe. When I was a little kid our receptacles were located so high that we could not reach them even we wanted to...... Bad design, however, somehow it was safer I guess?
 
amptech said:
Things are different now.

They sure are. You can't buy lead paint or asbestos anymore, smoking is banned in most public indoor locations in many states, great advances have been made in medicine and technology, and the list goes on and on.

I'm sure things were better back then in many ways, but don't leave out the bad things that happened back then too. It wasn't all roses.
 
ryan_618 said:
How many people here THAT HAVE CHILDREN hav ever bought the plastic inserts that go into the receptacles to protect children?

I had them when they were real little. I removed them when the youngest was around 5.
 
ryan_618 said:
I find it interesting that the majority here has bought the plastic inserts, yet many people here still complain about TR devices. I truly don't understand.

It's the removal of our choice that upsets most people.
 
paul said:
It's the removal of our choice that upsets most people.

You can still decide up or down. :grin:


But seriously if people are really concerned with loosing their individual rights of choice this issue is not even drop in that bucket.
 
3 kids here, no safety inserts at all. No bike helmets, very little child safety seat usage, very little seat belt use, and they're all still alive!!!

I feel that nature is the very best teacher ever. My application of this is to let nature take its course, except where death or serious injury is likely.

Here's an example; I've always used wood for heat. When any of the kids would get curious about fire, I'd explain the benefits as well as the hazards. A typical 3 year old doesn't understand logic any too well, so after I told said kid what would happen if he touched the stove while a fire was in it, I built a small fire, then simply walked away. Of course, there was a high-pitched shriek, and a kid running to mommy, clutching his hand.

That only happened once. Two things were accomplished with this, first; don't touch the stove when its hot. Secondly, and even more importantly, if mom and dad say to keep your mitts off of something, and you choose to disobey, bad things will happen.

When I explained what would happen if they stuck something into an outlet, they remembered the stove experience, and took dads warning very seriously.

With all the safety rules and devices there are today, no one ever learns first hand how to listen and understand, (and what happens if you don't), and much worse, no one ever learns how to think. We're not even allowed to teach, (unless we're licensed to do so, of course!). If child protective services would have witnessed the above hot stove example, I'd still be in jail. All that is taught is blind obedience to rules and regulations without question.

And we wonder why we're raising a generation of idiots.
 
micromind said:
very little child safety seat usage, very little seat belt use, and they're all still alive!!!


That's an excellent example of very bad logic. Past activity with positive results is no guarantee of future positive results. There are many people who have been injured and killed from lack of seat belt use.

But hey, to each their own, people can do what they want with the knowledge that they have.
 
peter d said:
That's an excellent example of very bad logic. Past activity with positive results is no guarantee of future positive results. There are many people who have been injured and killed from lack of seat belt use.

I agree.

To be frank, the people that have been killed really don't get to voice there experience so it is completely one sided argument.
 
My point was that education is always more valuable than legislation.

What about the psychological damage of having a bunch of idiotic rules rammed on us? Especially when we're required to do stuff that we'd normally do anyway? Psychology 101.....Oppression breeds contempt.

I realize it's much easier (and certainly more profitable) to just enact a law, and force blind compliance, than it is to convince through education that the idea is valid.

True patriotism always involves the defiance of tyrants. Well, it did 250 years ago, anyway.

OK, Flame on!
 
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