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480sparky

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mikeames said:
Even though I am in agreement with a "FORM" I bet it would hold little value if someone were killed because of blatantly dangerous situation that a professional failed to correct. I am not advocating this I am just making a poin that I think lawyers and legal course is so crazy sometimes that even innocent peopl get burned. I could hear it now.....

"Well the professional should have know how dangerous this was and therfor shoudl not have been satasified with just a form"

I dont have a better method I am just saying I dont think a form is wacko lawyer proof. I guess thats why we have insurance.... to make lawyers rich.
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Nothing is legally bullet-proof. And I never claimed it to be.

Truth be known, any lawyer worth his/her salt would sue you just because you knew about the problem.




Here ya go:

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Now everyone on this forum is legally liable because they didn't do what a professional electrician is required to do.............fix it and make it safe!
 
brantmacga

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If we had to turn down every job with an existing violation, many of us would be out of work.


When I run into this type of scenario, I do the requested work, and list all the violations I found on the invoice, after of course explaining what I found wrong in an attempt to get more work out of the job.

All of the violations are listed on the invoice and delivered to the customer.
 
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"ELECTRICAL

ALL PROVISIONS OF NATIONAL ELECTRICAL CODE ARTICLE 680 SHALL BE COMPLIED
WITH.
GROUND-FAULT CIRCUIT-INTERRUPTERS NEC 210.8(A)(3),680.5
All outside receptacles shall be GFCI. Ground-fault circuit-interrupters shall be self-contained units,
circuit-breaker or receptacle types, or other listed types."
 
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Power Tech

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SiddMartin said:
"ELECTRICAL

ALL PROVISIONS OF NATIONAL ELECTRICAL CODE ARTICLE 680 SHALL BE COMPLIED
WITH.
GROUND-FAULT CIRCUIT-INTERRUPTERS NEC 210.8(A)(3),680.5
All outside receptacles shall be GFCI. Ground-fault circuit-interrupters shall be self-contained units,
circuit-breaker or receptacle types, or other listed types."
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So if the panel is on the other side of the house and you are using a branch circuit to comply with 680.22 you would set a panel not less than 6 ft and not mote than 20 ft instead of a GFI receptacle. Pool panels come with a KO just for the GFI for the light. I have lived in So Cal for 40 years and have done dozens of pools. Of corse I could be wrong. I would like to ask Mike Holt. I feel this is a very important life safety topic. Let's seek the truth.
 
480sparky

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680.5 Ground-Fault Circuit Interrupters.
Ground-fault circuit interrupters (GFCIs) shall be self-contained units, circuit-breaker or receptacle types, or other listed types.
 
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c2500

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Power Tech said:
Oh come on, thats uncalled for. Show me in the code where you can use a GFI breaker for the light.
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While we are just getting into the 2005 NEC, 680.51 (A) says you will protect the light with a GFCI. I assume you are refering to the "pool light" aka Luminaires. There is also 680.22 (B) (3) and (4) and (5)

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