zog
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Not until you pry it from my cold, dead hands.
If yours is not CAT III rated that could very well be sooner than you think
Not until you pry it from my cold, dead hands.
Is the Vol-Con the digital version? That one's specs state 1M which seems a bit too high to eliminate ghost voltage.I was weary about getting a fluke T+ Pro. I had the electronic ideal Vol-Con that also claimed to be "low impedance" and when I got into industrial I started getting ghost readings everywhere. It would claim I had true 120V on a totally dead 277V circuit.
I've gotten semi-ghost readings with the T+Pro, but with the digital display combined with the lower impedance, I know when they're bogus. I.e.: 32V on a 277V circuit.
The flashlight and backlit display are great.
My only complaint is that the resistance reading won't resolve anything lower than, I think, 10 ohms. But if you really care about resistance you'll probably be using a DMM anyway.
-John
Just measured a T+ Pro at 120V is draws 1.66ma. I know that its impedance varies with voltage because I was that by a Fluke Tech Support. I think that I posted that somewhere here but can't find the post.The T-Pro along side my VOMs is low impedance. Placed on the same test points as my VOM, the readings are almost the same. Place another VOM on those test points and there is no change. Place another Tpro on the circuit and the voltage drops in half, then again for the third Tpro. This was on a very special motor control circuit that I hope to correct some day.
I suspect the current draw of a wiggy is considerably higher than the TPRO.
What was the point of doing that?
The T+ Pro has a duty cycle, so many minutes on a circuit to some many minutes off a circuit which is listed in its manual. It's not designed for continous duty.
Reality check! Good point, but I confess that I have used Cat III when I should have been using Cat IV.If yours is not CAT III rated that could very well be sooner than you think
My newest one is, and it's the only one I use on anything greater than 240v.If yours is not CAT III rated that could very well be sooner than you think
Yes, get one. You'll throw away your solenoidal tester in no time.
I was weary about getting a fluke T+ Pro. I had the electronic ideal Vol-Con that also claimed to be "low impedance" and when I got into industrial I started getting ghost readings everywhere. It would claim I had true 120V on a totally dead 277V circuit.
I've gotten semi-ghost readings with the T+Pro, but with the digital display combined with the lower impedance, I know when they're bogus. I.e.: 32V on a 277V circuit.
The flashlight and backlit display are great.
My only complaint is that the resistance reading won't resolve anything lower than, I think, 10 ohms. But if you really care about resistance you'll probably be using a DMM anyway.
-John
I'm getting confused with all of the answers. The main reason I want one is for checking ghost voltage. I read, somewhere, that it worked like a solenoid tester. I don't have a wiggy, would that be a better choice? I got "bit" pretty bad about a month ago because I thought it was ghost voltage, 238v on one leg of a 480v circuit with the fuses pulled. After tracing the wires back through a jumbled up mess I found a jumper wire that someone put in many years ago.
I work on stuff that has been "jerry rigged" by many people over the years, some stuff is 30+ years old.
Looks like you just answered your own question.I don't have a wiggy, would that be a better choice? I got "bit" pretty bad about a month ago because I thought it was ghost voltage, 238v on one leg of a 480v circuit with the fuses pulled.
Looks like you just answered your own question.
So does any solenoid tester: just test from line to ground.... love the fact it tests gfi also ...
Same here. Different tools for different jobs.i still have my digital meter as backup because it also does ohms and resistance
A resounding "Yes!" He wouldn't have gotten zapped if he had been using a solenoid tester.What was his answer Larry?
So does any solenoid tester: just test from line to ground.
Same here. Different tools for different jobs.
True enough, but a good portion of troubleshooting is in, let's say, less-than-comfortable places, and a Knopp K-60 is more rugged than most DMM's. Plus, I need to know 'go' or 'no-go' for power, not specific voltage.There's always dual impedance DMM's, they read ohms and resistance too
The Vol-Con spec says it has a 1M input impedance.A resounding "Yes!" He wouldn't have gotten zapped if he had been using a solenoid tester.
True enough, but a good portion of troubleshooting is in, let's say, less-than-comfortable places, and a Knopp K-60 is more rugged than most DMM's. Plus, I need to know 'go' or 'no-go' for power, not specific voltage.
A wiggie is fine for measuring across fuses for testing them while in place. Why pull all two or three when you can find the bad one?