Basement finish man hours

olly

Senior Member
Location
Berthoud, Colorado
Occupation
Master Electrician
Roughly how many man hours do you think it would take 2 journeyman level to rough and trim a 1000 sq ft basement? 9 can lights everything else basic to code.
 

James L

Senior Member
Location
Kansas Cty, Mo, USA
Occupation
Electrician
It depends. How old is the house?. How much old circuiting has to be re-fed, re-routed, etc? Where is panel, and hoe how accessible is it? There are variables that make a big difference.

Is everything ready...all framing, hvac, plumbing done, clean space?

And the guys. How fast are they?

I'd say a range would be 12 to 20 hours total for rough-in and trim.

I figure about 3 openings per hour for myself.
 

James L

Senior Member
Location
Kansas Cty, Mo, USA
Occupation
Electrician
Wow some low figures. I would guess 32 man hours absolute minimum. It's never as easy as you think.
It depends who you're working for, honestly.

I have three builders I work for, that's a 15-hour job.

I have another builder I work for, that's a 50- or 60-hour job because they don't have a clue how to manage a job site
 

James L

Senior Member
Location
Kansas Cty, Mo, USA
Occupation
Electrician
Here's one I wired a couple of years ago, it was about 850 sq ft with a rec room, bedroom, bathroom and furnace/storage.

I did it by myself. I had 11 hours in the rough-in and 4 hours in the finish.

Btw, prices are a bit higher now
 

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sw_ross

Senior Member
Location
NoDak
Is it a new basement with no pre-existing j-boxes that have to be dealt with? Is the panel accessible for homeruns?
if everything is straightforward I would start with about 12-16 hours for rough-in, with that number going up as more challenges are encountered.
 

sw_ross

Senior Member
Location
NoDak
Here's one I wired a couple of years ago, it was about 850 sq ft with a rec room, bedroom, bathroom and furnace/storage.

I did it by myself. I had 11 hours in the rough-in and 4 hours in the finish.

Btw, prices are a bit higher now
Is that a bid proposal? If so, is the top item “quantity” hours? (7)
I’m not a fan of itemizing the dollar amounts. I’m ok with itemizing quantities so the customer can see how many of each item they’re getting but I’ll usually only give them the bottom line amount for price.

Also, what software do you use for that bid proposal? It looks nice.
 

James L

Senior Member
Location
Kansas Cty, Mo, USA
Occupation
Electrician
Is that a bid proposal? If so, is the top item “quantity” hours? (7)
I’m not a fan of itemizing the dollar amounts. I’m ok with itemizing quantities so the customer can see how many of each item they’re getting but I’ll usually only give them the bottom line amount for price.

Also, what software do you use for that bid proposal? It looks nice.
That's an invoice for a completed job, but it was easily converted from an estimate.
The quantities are openings, or pieces.

I use Invoice2Go, and it's automatically set up to itemize. But that's my preference, too.

There are pros and cons to itemizing.

Con: they see how much each item costs, and can freak out a bit over the cost of one item, when they don't take into account behind the scenes time.

Pro: there's a shopping cart, in essense. It eliminates freebies. You add more, I add more
 
Is it a new basement with no pre-existing j-boxes that have to be dealt with? Is the panel accessible for homeruns?
if everything is straightforward I would start with about 12-16 hours for rough-in, with that number going up as more challenges are encountered.
Yeah I could see maybe 12 to 16 if it was absolutely textbook and easy. In general though I would plan about a week for something like that. maybe you guys are blessed with more textbook easy jobs, but I would have to think hard for the last time I did an easy straightforward job.
 

James L

Senior Member
Location
Kansas Cty, Mo, USA
Occupation
Electrician
Not enough information.
If you don't mind me asking are you bidding or price checking?
I wish more 'lectrishuns would price-check.
I try to ask others occasionally, and it's like they're guarding a recipe for meth.

If we all know ehat each orher is charging, we can all encourage each other to keep prices up higher than general laborers
 

Knuckle Dragger

Master Electrician Electrical Contractor 01752
Location
Marlborough, Massachusetts USA
Occupation
Electrical Contractor
I agree. 25 plus years ago or so I was at one the local supply houses two owners of the two of the mid sizes electrical construction company's pulled me aside (to make a long story short) to basically inform me what they charge and asked what charged.
I was totally surprised at how high their hourly rate was.
It was really helpful to have that conversation with them and I stated adjusting my rate.
I understand rates vary all over the country and even throughout the counties in each state.
I am now at $120.00 per hour per licensed man. $180.00 with helper.
 
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