estimated time for roughin a 2 story house

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stickboy1375 said:
Okay I want a truthful answer, why on earth do you do this?
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You can't handle the truth!!! The truth is that is how we do it...And everyone does it that way...Ok not everyone. But everyone around here.....I will tell you this I do pull more than 1 phone or tv thru a hole...Can you atleast give me some slack for that?
 
splinetto said:
You can't handle the truth!!! The truth is that is how we do it...And everyone does it that way...Ok not everyone. But everyone around here.....I will tell you this I do pull more than 1 phone or tv thru a hole...Can you atleast give me some slack for that?
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"Everyone does it that way."

When was that ever a good reason to do something?
 
peter d said:
"Everyone does it that way."

When was that ever a good reason to do something?
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It is not like some guys do and some guys dont...We all do....And if you came here you would have to do the same.....You might try to fight it but the dark side is strong....
 
splinetto said:
It is not like some guys do and some guys dont...We all do....And if you came here you would have to do the same.....
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When the blind lead the blind, they all fall into a ditch.

Sounds to me you have some clueless authorities there and people who are willing to go along with their absurdity.
 
peter d said:
When the blind lead the blind, they all fall into a ditch.

Sounds to me you have some clueless authorities there and people who are willing to go along with their absurdity.
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Show me a code secton I am violating.
 
splinetto said:
Show me a code secton I am violating.
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There is no code section. The issue I have is that drilling all those holes is a ridiculous waste of time and effort. Not to mention wear and tear on your bits and drills.
 
peter d said:
There is no code section. The issue I have is that drilling all those holes is a ridiculous waste of time and effort. Not to mention wear and tear on your bits and drills.
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You forgot hands,arms and shoulders.
 
bjp_ne_elec said:
That's how Popeye got those forearms. Knocking out 300+ holes a house with a Hole Hawg ;)
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I've never heard of people counting how many holes they drill when wiring a home. Do you guys factor that number into the cost or estimate somehow? And if so then why?
 
steelersman said:
I've never heard of people counting how many holes they drill when wiring a home. Do you guys factor that number into the cost or estimate somehow? And if so then why?
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For me...that cost is included with the wire run ~ even the times when no hole is being made..ie, homeruns across basement/attic ceilings.

I recall a "debate" I had here with another poster who counts the holes :roll:
What-ev-ER...
 
celtic said:
For me...that cost is included with the wire run ~ even the times when no hole is being made..ie, homeruns across basement/attic ceilings.
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Yeah I can't imagine trying to figure out how many holes I'm gonna drill so I figure out an estimate based on that. Seems like a waste of time.
 
steelersman said:
Yeah I can't imagine trying to figure out how many holes I'm gonna drill so I figure out an estimate based on that. Seems like a waste of time.
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I figure it this way....

Drilling a hole requires:
drill
bit
xcord
time

Running across beams requires:
staples
ladder
hammer
time

Basically it equals out :cool:
 
We can't use 14 anything here in NM except between light fixture and switch.

The HVAC guys here cannot connect to anything but an existing panel with 240 breaker already present.

We figure home runs per square foot plus 20ft per run for vertical panels.
 
peter d said:
There is no code section. The issue I have is that drilling all those holes is a ridiculous waste of time and effort. Not to mention wear and tear on your bits and drills.
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I add a new Greenlee Auger bit to every house job in the estimate and with my 90 degree V28 Milwaukee I drill about 200 holes in 3 hours in the Horizontal direction. And I still have one light on my battery.

On new construction We drop the studs in a frame and pre drill 10 at a time. The framers grab our studs for the inner walls and we walk drill the outer walls. We drill in the evening to get ahead of the framers.

When I say walk drill the handle of the drill is held down to an easy on the back with out bending level and the other hand runs the drill. Right or left thigh applies pressure to the drill. That 90 degree drill was one of my best investments.
 
kid_stevens said:
When I say walk drill the handle of the drill is held down to an easy on the back with out bending level and the other hand runs the drill. Right or left thigh applies pressure to the drill. That 90 degree drill was one of my best investments.
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If you alternate direction when drilling - wire pulling is much easier.
People have a natural tendency to have the same amount of angle while "drilling from the hip"...alternating the drill direction offsets this natural angle.

An extension bit for the auger eliminates the need for a ladder when drilling top plates for switches, jumpers, home runs, etc.
 
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