EV Charger question

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I've been in a lot of places that have wind every day, all day and are out of the way: Wyoming, Colorado, West Virginia, Kansas...I'm sure just about every state has wind corridors.

BTW, here are some figures on states getting a lot from wind now: Colorado 26%, Iowa 55%, Kansas 45%, Maine 23%, Minnesota 21%, Nebraska 25%, New Mexico 30%, North Dakota 34%, Oklahoma 41%, South Dakota 52%, Texas 20%, Wyoming 19%.
Every year, the Honda ST forum I'm in has a long weekend group ride in the fall. We stay at a campground in Davis, WV., and ride all day each day. We see plenty of spinning wind turbines.

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You need a 100 amp breaker, and wire sized for 100A circuit loaded to 80 amps, so #3. Plus you must follow the instructuon manual and it also states #3. So you will.need 1 1/4" conduit. Gfci is not required.

He decided to go "green" hahahhahahahaha. He must pay for it to be hooked up properly.
Why is GFI not required?
 
Just hooked up one of these. No neutral is needed. Don't worry about gfi it's over 50 amps 1 phase. Copper only and it's 75° at 3 awg so double check your liquid tight. There's a wierd kick on the charger too you can't come in straight up or down.
Why doesnt it need GFCI if its over 50A?
 
Why doesnt it need GFCI if its over 50A?
No receptacle it's hardwired but if it's an outbuilding, on a pedestals, or detached garage then 210.8 b applies when not in or on the dwelling unit and it cuts off 1 phase gfci at 50 amps. You'll be hard pressed to enforce gfi over 60 amps 1 phase until more become commercially available. But technically non-amended 210.8a doesn't care about the branch circuit size but everywhere I've seen has seriously amended this code section locally.
 
But will we be able to generate it cleanly and perpetually, and have a practicable widespread charging infrastructure?

Maybe a better solution would be to generate the electricity within the vehicle, perhaps with a miniature nuclear reactor.
No, nope, and no.
HFCeV is the right solution. You can still have small amounts of batt eV's, but batts are not the solution.
 
No, nope, and no.
HFCeV is the right solution. You can still have small amounts of batt eV's, but batts are not the solution.
For 1000s of years we used various animals, boat types, wind propulsion, manual rowing and walking. We added in the last 300 rail, air travel, personal vehicles using ICE or steam from fossil fuels for propulsion, and then eventually nuclear, solar although limited, hydrogen fuel cell, and stored electricity from other sources. If you go back 300 years and ask a guy if he would take a train and give up his horse that involves mining coal and pumping and storing water using a proprietary rail measurement do you think he would do it. But people jumped at the chance to clean up the manure in cities when it worked.

What's really interesting and often discussed on this forum is how we have to work around the current products available and keep compliant with codes all while turning a profit in the installation of it. It'll be really interesting to see what types of chargers and integration methods become the standard. The original car chargers aren't what's become the standard which is currently a 240 50 amp outlet with an adapter and car on board rectifier and charger. So what will become the future standard will it be for this type of vehicle will it become standard to have the battery in packs like propane exchanged or a flow cell electrolyte exchange or will it be these newer cell types? All these possibilities and all the potential nuances to their electrical installation will be interesting and possibly challenging.
 
For 1000s of years we used various animals, boat types, wind propulsion, manual rowing and walking. We added in the last 300 rail, air travel, personal vehicles using ICE or steam from fossil fuels for propulsion, and then eventually nuclear, solar although limited, hydrogen fuel cell, and stored electricity from other sources. If you go back 300 years and ask a guy if he would take a train and give up his horse that involves mining coal and pumping and storing water using a proprietary rail measurement do you think he would do it. But people jumped at the chance to clean up the manure in cities when it worked.

What's really interesting and often discussed on this forum is how we have to work around the current products available and keep compliant with codes all while turning a profit in the installation of it. It'll be really interesting to see what types of chargers and integration methods become the standard. The original car chargers aren't what's become the standard which is currently a 240 50 amp outlet with an adapter and car on board rectifier and charger. So what will become the future standard will it be for this type of vehicle will it become standard to have the battery in packs like propane exchanged or a flow cell electrolyte exchange or will it be these newer cell types? All these possibilities and all the potential nuances to their electrical installation will be interesting and possibly challenging.
Good info, all valid. I was just noting that the stuff being pushed is not a solution to the problem. ;)
 
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