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Thanx. Great to know if/when VA adopts more recent codes that require more than bedroom circuits.

We're still on '14, with the option to use '11 until September. Don't know why and not complaining.
 
curt swartz said:
I had the debate with Al over a year ago and he would not accept that Eaton had removed the GF sensing from standard BR AFCI breakers. I have never used a GE AFCI breaker but do the instructions specifically state that they don't have GF protection? Its obvious they don't but just curious if its actually stated in the instructions.
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This PDF file is a copy of the GE MOD3 CAFCI Installation Instructions. The installation instruction line #4 clearly states that the LOAD neutral from the Branch Circuit can either be connected to the breaker neutral screw terminal OR the load center neutral.

Curt, you are correct that they don't come out and declare the "absence" of a ground fault sensing component. However, they do write in the promotional pamphlet, that I link to in my Post #6 in this thread, that the neutral does not have to be "pure", i.e., the branch circuit neutral may be cross connected to another neutral and it won't affect the operation of the single pole combination type MOD3 AFCI.
 
peter d said:
If you're so inclined, you can mosey down to your local big box store and purchase an Eaton BR breaker, and obtain the same leaflet.
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Thank you for posting more of information leaflet IL003022EN. It's really ridiculous that it isn't online.

It's good to have as reference to give to those who get confused with the results they get from their test equipment.

What I note in Step 3 of the section titled "Installation Instructions" is an un-ambiguous requirement to always connect the Branch Circuit Neutral Conductor to the BR AFCI Load Neutral Terminal Screw.

This is more restrictive than the GE Installation Instructions.

Older documents have included a line drawing of the breaker with conductors passing in, through and out of it, that includes an Oval surrounding both the Branch Circuit HOT and NEUTRAL, implying, to me, the presence of a toroid. The oval, however, wasn't annotated in the Eaton documents.

I suspect that signals in the current and voltage on the Branch Circuit Load Neutral are necessary for the Eaton proprietary circuitry and assembly to pass UL test to be a combination type AFCI. Just my opinion.
 
al hildenbrand said:
Thank you for posting more of information leaflet IL003022EN. It's really ridiculous that it isn't online.
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You're welcome and I agree.



It's good to have as reference to give to those who get confused with the results they get from their test equipment.

What I note in Step 3 of the section titled "Installation Instructions" is an un-ambiguous requirement to always connect the Branch Circuit Neutral Conductor to the BR AFCI Load Neutral Terminal Screw.

This is more restrictive than the GE Installation Instructions.

Older documents have included a line drawing of the breaker with conductors passing in, through and out of it, that includes an Oval surrounding both the Branch Circuit HOT and NEUTRAL, implying, to me, the presence of a toroid. The oval, however, wasn't annotated in the Eaton documents.

I suspect that signals in the current and voltage on the Branch Circuit Load Neutral are necessary for the Eaton proprietary circuitry and assembly to pass UL test to be a combination type AFCI. Just my opinion.
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Obviously the BR isn't listed to use on MWBC's, at least not yet. I am still curious to run a test on it at some point when I have a need to purchase more of them.
 
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