A fan is not a light. If you had a switched receptacle that would be acceptable.mrmark said:210.70 A (1)
Can a paddle fan be used in a room with two switch legs connected to fan with intention of future light kit? No light currently on fan. Does this
meet the requirement of lighting outlet under 210.70 A (1) and 100
Definitions?
Thanks,
Mark
After I responded so quickly I realized that a switched outlet meets code so why wouldn't a wire for a future light. I still have my doubts if it would pass everywhere. If you install an outlet for an overhead light and put a blank plate on it then it would not pass around here. We put in temp. keyless porcelain fixture.rcarroll said:IMO, it does meet the requirements. Code requires a lighting outlet. The box with the switch legs is that outlet.
How would you plug the lamp into the "future light kit"?Dennis Alwon said:After I responded so quickly I realized that a switched outlet meets code so why wouldn't a wire for a future light. I still have my doubts if it would pass everywhere. If you install an outlet for an overhead light and put a blank plate on it then it would not pass around here. We put in temp. keyless porcelain fixture.
And when the inspector asks you to make a light come on when you operate that switch . . . ?rcarroll said:IMO, it does meet the requirements. Code requires a lighting outlet. The box with the switch legs is that outlet.
I am the inspector. A light does not come on when I hit the switch of a switched recep. 410.12 requires "in a completed installation, each outlet box shall be provided with a cover unless covered by means of a luminaire.....LarryFine said:And when the inspector asks you to make a light come on when you operate that switch . . . ?
I think the difference is the room is ready for a lamp with a switched outlet. The other way the HO would have to buy a light kit and get it installed. This is likely to not happen soon or they would have put the light in right away. Everyone has a lamp usually--- I have had HO ask me to hang a fan without a light and I won't do it. If they want a light then buy the light it is cheaper than the fan.1793 said:so, when a tree falls in the Forrest, is there sound if no one is there to hear it?
If you have a switched outlet and nothing plugged into it, how would this be different than an overhead box wired with nothing connected. Both could still be tested for inspection.
The difference is that it is within the average homeowner’s skill to plug in a floor lamp.1793 said:If you have a switched outlet and nothing plugged into it, how would this be different than an overhead box wired with nothing connected. Both could still be tested for inspection.
No, the question is, “When a tree falls in a forest, and a man is not there to hear it, will his wife say that the man is still wrong?”1793 said:so, when a tree falls in the Forrest, is there sound if no one is there to hear it?
mrmark said:210.70 A (1)
Can a paddle fan be used in a room with two switch legs connected to fan with intention of future light kit? No light currently on fan. Does this
meet the requirement of lighting outlet under 210.70 A (1) and 100
Definitions?
Thanks,
Mark
Dennis Alwon said:...The other way the HO would have to buy a light kit and get it installed. ...
I don't want to open up an old discussion, and I haven't the energy to read through the old arguments. But let me suggest that some might think the space at the bottom of the fan is not part of the "premises wiring system." So it can't be an outlet (lighting or otherwise). I think that point might have been made in that other, long thread. It might even have been me who made it, but I don't recall.Jim W in Tampa said:The outlet can be a box with caped off wires and a cover. And that is exactly what is at the bottom of that fan.
I dunno.Jim W in Tampa said:All the code requires is an OUTLET.A fixture is not required.The outlet can be a box with caped off wires and a cover.And that is exactly what is at the bottom of that fan.Nothing says the switch cant control more than the light,it simply says wall switch controled.So if the fan comes on with it there is no violation. would say that box in the ceiling is an outlet.What customer puts on it is not the inspectors problem.Now if it does not permit a light kit then the inspector could tag you or say remove the fan and blank it off.
roger said:I just want everybody to read the old thread, all of it. :grin:
Roger
I just want every forum member to send me $10.roger said:I just want everybody to read the old thread, all of it. :grin: