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ike5547 said:
There are thousands of electricians and inspectors here that disagree with your interpretation of it.
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There might be people who disagree with the code section and therefore ignore it, but there's only one way you can interpret that each conductor needs to pass through its own bushed hole.
 
dcspector said:
Might want to take that neutral bond screw out of that MLO. Unless my eyes are decieving me.
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I guarantee that panel is not bonded. I've got a whole drawer of panel bonding screws that come home in my shirt pocket. It comes in handy to have an assortment of these for the times you come across one missing the bond where appropriate.

FRANK

edit; I should say that the panel tub is bonded however the neutral bars are not bonded.
 
fww56 said:
I guarantee that panel is not bonded. I've got a whole drawer of panel bonding screws that come home in my shirt pocket. It comes in handy to have an assortment of these for the times you come across one missing the bond where appropriate.

FRANK
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I usualy leave them in my pocket along with other assorted junk that ends up in my dryer.
 
dcspector said:
Like i said disclaimer there folks "unless my eyes are decieving me" What is that greenish looking screw lower left, top screw on the neutral bus?
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That's what I am seeing too. It looks green from here, but I could be wrong.
 
dcspector said:
John.....are we going nuts? That is normally where the MBJ / screw is.
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I will not comment on our possible insanity.... I hope you understand. :wink:

I finally got to zoom in on that screw... it's not green.

I'm not familiar enough with Homeline panels, we use QO.

My bad.
 
electricmanscott said:
Can't we just believe the guy that actually did the work?
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Yes we can.........Looking at a picture can be tough. I am an inspector... so therefore I have a negative, prove it to me, put the burden of proof on the EC, doughtful attitude.....:D
 
mdshunk said:
There might be people who disagree with the code section and therefore ignore it, but there's only one way you can interpret that each conductor needs to pass through its own bushed hole.
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Then we (and the other people who disagree with you) should agree to disagree on it.

As most "Vintage" installs I see from 1890~mid-30's in metal enclosures will have holes sized for the loom as an entry, then either a few wraps of tape or a brass crimp on the loom to secure it in the enclosure. No bushing - just the loom.

Furthermore, mid-30's until the 60's they would take the loom through an available 1/2" KO - still no bushing... 60's onward there would be a 1/2" set-screw connector (as shown) with the loom still extending inside the enclosure - and still no "Bushing" by your definition of one. Just the loom, which seems to qualify for many....

Even hand-built enclosures like the aspestoes enclosure one originally shown would just have the feeder come in through porciline tubes, and then all the branch on loom from the knobs on the other side of the studs. Still no bushing by your definition.

314.17B
Where metal boxes or conduit bodies are installed with open wiring or concealed knob-and-tube wiring, conductors shall enter through insulating bushings or, in dry locations, through flexible tubing extending from the last insulating support to not less than 6 mm (1/4 in.) inside the box and beyond any cable clamps.
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Well after 2 1/2 days, over 1700 views and 77 comments it's down to a debate as to the most accepted method to merge 70+ year old wiring safely to modern equipment and whether or not a bonding screw has been installed. I'd say that that job was a success.

The crop of the original photo below shows that as stated before the bonding screw was not installed and did in fact end up in my dresser drawer.

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FRANK

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