Installing windows and doors

Status
Not open for further replies.
N

Naplessparky2965

Member
My inspector will not let us pull wire until all the outside windows and doors are installed. Is there somewhere in the Code or a change that gives him the authority to do this.
 
I agree with that to some point. These are large Custom built million dollar homes whereas many of the areas are not affected by direct weather but he will not let any contractor pull any wire which is holding up the few jobs that there are.
 
Look here.

110.11 Deteriorating Agents.
Unless identified for use in the operating environment, no conductors or equipment shall be located in damp or wet locations; where exposed to gases, fumes, vapors, liquids, or other agents that have a deteriorating effect on the conductors or equipment; or where exposed to excessive temperatures.
FPN No. 1: See 300.6 for protection against corrosion.
FPN No. 2: Some cleaning and lubricating compounds can cause severe deterioration of many plastic materials used for insulating and structural applications in equipment.
Equipment not identified for outdoor use and equipment identified only for indoor use, such as ?dry locations,? ?indoor use only,? ?damp locations,? or enclosure Types 1, 2, 5, 12, 12K, and/or 13, shall be protected against permanent damage from the weather during building construction.
Click to expand...
 
Naplessparky2965 said:
My inspector will not let us pull wire until all the outside windows and doors are installed.
Click to expand...

Why would you want to pull wire before all windows, doors and maybe a security system are installed? :grin: :grin:
 
"Permanent damage" is highly ambiguous to say the least and does 110.11 apply to conductors?
 
I have been warned for this also. He quoted the same code reference as well and wasn't a dang thing I could do but smile and watch the plumbers with envy as they worked away.
 
Thanks although I still do not agree with his view of said code. How would anyone be allowed to pull front entries and lanais ceilings. They are more exposed than the interior.
 
infinity said:
"Permanent damage" is highly ambiguous to say the least
Click to expand...
OP wanted a code reference so he got one.:grin:

and does 110.11 apply to conductors?
Click to expand...
have a deteriorating effect on the conductors or equipment
Click to expand...
Rob, I'm not saying this is a big deal down here, only that an inspector might choose to use this in certian conditions.
 
chris kennedy said:
Rob, I'm not saying this is a big deal down here, only that an inspector might choose to use this in certian conditions.
Click to expand...

So if I'm using a conductor listed for wet locations I'm good?
 
Rough In

Rough In

In my jurisdiction I allow to wire if roof sheathing is in place and in the winter or when raining they install fabric ( Tyvek) over window openings.
 
The roof is completely dried in and the stucco guys are putting stucco on the walls. We are having to mount all our boxes on the outside but not able to pull the wire.
 
growler said:
Why would you want to pull wire before all windows, doors and maybe a security system are installed? :grin: :grin:
Click to expand...

I agree, copper theft is reason enough alone not to install wiring without the building being secure.
 
Naplessparky2965 said:
The roof is completely dried in and the stucco guys are putting stucco on the walls. We are having to mount all our boxes on the outside but not able to pull the wire.
Click to expand...


If the conductors are rated for wet locations then 110.11 does not apply and the inspector is incorrect.
 
it's not the inspectors job to secure a jobsite. It's the Owner or the GC.
Unless the job is in a severly damp climate I don't see the justification.
There is plenty of wires to be pulled prior to windows and doors. Doing this could prevent the EC from completing rough in a timly manner.
I'd call his boss. That code section does not fly with me.
 
Sierrasparky said:
it's not the inspectors job to secure a jobsite. It's the Owner or the GC.
Unless the job is in a severly damp climate I don't see the justification.
There is plenty of wires to be pulled prior to windows and doors. Doing this could prevent the EC from completing rough in a timly manner.
I'd call his boss. That code section does not fly with me.
Click to expand...

I don't think the code section you don't agree with cares about time. It hads to do with keeping the integrity of the premise wiring. IMO.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Top