- Location
- New Jersey
- Occupation
- Journeyman Electrician
Does anyone know if these devices are only for use with intersystem bonding conductors in with article 800 installations? Can they be used to connect GES bonding jumpers to the GEC or GES?
Does anyone know if these devices are only for use with intersystem bonding conductors in with article 800 installations? Can they be used to connect GES bonding jumpers to the GEC or GES?
Well, Dang! I keep getting putting these things in hoping somebody will use them. I would like to think that another electrician could, nobody else is.2014 NEC clarified the intersystem bonding termination was for intersystem bonds only.....
My hypothetical question is say I ran a #4 cu to the cold water pipe could I use one of these to connect a #6 from each ground rod to the #4 GEC?
I would think if I can connect the #6 from the ground rod to the water pipe why can't I use this device for that purpose?
Around here the cable guys were told not to use it, not sure why but I too have not seen them usedWell, Dang! I keep getting putting these things in hoping somebody will use them. I would like to think that another electrician could, nobody else is.
There's much to the section that makes no sense.I would think so too but I heard in a CEU seminar that they were only listed for use with Article 800 intersystem bonding applications. Makes no sense to me. :roll:
Around here the cable guys were told not to use it, not sure why but I too have not seen them used
My hypothetical question is say I ran a #4 cu to the cold water pipe could I use one of these to connect a #6 from each ground rod to the #4 GEC?
This category covers grounding devices intended for use in telecommunication applications, such as telephone, radio, CATV and the like, in accordance with Articles 770, 800, 810, 820, 830 and Section 250.94 of ANSI/NFPA 70, "National Electrical Code" (NEC).
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Intersystem Bonding Terminations ? Devices that provide a means for connecting communications systems grounding conductors and bonding conductors at the service equipment or at the disconnecting means for buildings or structures supplied by a feeder or branch circuit.
Silly but yes for bonding conductors but no for grounding electrode conductor.So that means it is ok then?
Why on earth not? It's explicitly for their use!
I don't know-- I guess they are afraid that anyone can come by with a screw driver and disconnect it but if there were a split bolt on it then they wont.. I don't know. We put them in and I was told by the installers that they were told not to use them.
What must be used instead of the bonding terminal?? The older style that clipped on the edge of the panel and supposedly penetrates the paint??
I installed one similar when I rebuilt after my house burned down. I actually had to explain to the cable guy and phone technician what it was used for. I would agree with the bonding terminal block only and not a grounding terminal because of the lack of irreversible connections. If people don't use them for bonding, it only makes sense that they will remove wires for grounding.
I don't know-- I guess they are afraid that anyone can come by with a screw driver and disconnect it but if there were a split bolt on it then they wont.. I don't know. We put them in and I was told by the installers that they were told not to use them.