kitchen countertop recep spacing with large garden window

480sparky

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"countertops or work surface" is preceded by "island or peninsular". It does not apply to all work surfaces in this exception.

"On island and peninsular countertops or work surface"
Choose one. That's what the word 'or' means.

So let's break it down.

On island and peninsular countertops or work surface where the surface is ƒflat across its entire surface (no backsplashes, dividers, etc.) and there are no means to mount a receptacle within 500 mm (20 in.) above the countertop or work surface, such as an overhead cabinet

I choose the latter, 'work surface where the surface is flat across....' So let's eliminate that which I didn't choose.

On .....work surface where the surface is ƒflat across its entire surface (no backsplashes, dividers, etc.) and there are no means to mount a receptacle within 500 mm (20 in.) above the countertop or work surface, such as an overhead cabinet......

 

PaulMmn

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Union, KY, USA
Choose one. That's what the word 'or' means.
I read it as:

"On island and peninsular countertops or work surface..."
"On island and peninsular (countertops or work surface)"

the "or" refers to how you define the 'peninsular' flat surface; it's not adding a 3rd option.
 

retirede

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Location
Illinois
I read it as:

"On island and peninsular countertops or work surface..."
"On island and peninsular (countertops or work surface)"

the "or" refers to how you define the 'peninsular' flat surface; it's not adding a 3rd option.
It’s ambiguous.

Your interpretation is valid. It could also be interpreted as (island and peninsular countertops) or work surfaces.

Another code section that could use some clarification.
 

packersparky

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Wisconsin
It’s ambiguous.

Your interpretation is valid. It could also be interpreted as (island and peninsular countertops) or work surfaces.

Another code section that could use some clarification.
It wasn't ambiguous in the 2014 NEC. They added the words "or work surface" in the 2017. Before that it just said "countertops". That is why I believe it only applies to islands and peninsulas. I don't believe it is meant to apply to any work surface.
 

480sparky

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Iowegia
I read it as:

"On island and peninsular countertops or work surface..."
"On island and peninsular (countertops or work surface)"

the "or" refers to how you define the 'peninsular' flat surface; it's not adding a 3rd option.
Definition of 'or' : "Used to link alternatives."

I don't see anything in that definition about how I define one choice or the other.

Besides, if the exception applied ONLY to islands and peninsulas, it would be in 210.52(C)(2) and 210.52(C)(3), which are specific to them.... not (5), which covers all SABC receps.
 

retirede

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Illinois
It wasn't ambiguous in the 2014 NEC. They added the words "or work surface" in the 2017. Before that it just said "countertops". That is why I believe it only applies to islands and peninsulas. I don't believe it is meant to apply to any work surface.
I wonder what the reason was for the added words?
 

packersparky

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Location
Wisconsin
Definition of 'or' : "Used to link alternatives."

I don't see anything in that definition about how I define one choice or the other.

Besides, if the exception applied ONLY to islands and peninsulas, it would be in 210.52(C)(2) and 210.52(C)(3), which are specific to them.... not (5), which covers all SABC receps.
Before the 2017 code the exception clearly only applied to island and peninsula countertops, and yet the exception was still located in 210.52(C)(5).
 

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