Labor units for PVC in trench

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Mule

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Any one have labor units for laying 1" PVC and pulling 3 8's and a 10? Ive got to quote a 800ft trench out to a gate operator. Another contractor is doing the trenching and backfill. Thanks very much
 
I'm no contractor, but running the PVC cylinder should take an apprentice just a couple of hours. Maybe two. Don't forget the primer and glue.
Use a vacuum to pull in the jet line.
However: the 800 feet could make this a pull from [German word for "bright"]. I would suggest you put a handhole or something at the 398' point.
~Peter
 
peter said:
I would suggest you put a handhole or something at the 398' point.
~Peter
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Thanks, I will be doing that, but probably every 175ft since most folks carry a 200ft tape and not may folks around here use vac&string out in the country. I know laying the pipe wont take long, but the pulling, well I'll shoot from the hip I guess.....say 2x2 for the wire pull which includes set up and tear down of spoolsl?
 
You are looking at 3.15 to 3.30 per ft. You did not say if you were including pull boxes, ells this would raise the price. Best way is price out material in your area, ad mark up, figure how long you think it would take to make the pull and add it up.
 
ceb58 said:
You are looking at 3.15 to 3.30 per ft. You did not say if you were including pull boxes, ells this would raise the price. Best way is price out material in your area, ad mark up, figure how long you think it would take to make the pull and add it up.
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Yea, I wasnt pricing right now, just estimating llabor units. In truth I havent sized the wire yet, waiting on the gate man to give me HP then I'll figure VD. right now just using #8 as a hunch.

The trench is a straight shot....but I will probably set 4 pull points
 
400' would be max for 1" to groundbox learn to use a vac and baggie w jetline it will save you lots of money in the future. Setup for 6 500' spools should be all of 5 minutes.
 
quogueelectric said:
400' would be max for 1" to groundbox learn to use a vac and baggie w jetline it will save you lots of money in the future. Setup for 6 500' spools should be all of 5 minutes.
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I'll check the book for sure on the size when I have a firm wire size, I think we are going to install a low voltage conduit as well, waiting on the gate man's direction
 
frizbeedog said:
No....first the glue, and then the glue. What primer?

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I think the primer is the stuff you use when you accidently kick over the glue jug without knowing it and it 20 miles to town :D
 
quogueelectric said:
400' would be max for 1" to groundbox learn to use a vac and baggie w jetline it will save you lots of money in the future. Setup for 6 500' spools should be all of 5 minutes.
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Yes Ive sucked a string many times over the years working industrial, just dont have room to carry it around in the van and dont need it that often
 
peter said:
However: the 800 feet could make this a pull from [German word for "bright"]. I would suggest you put a handhole or something at the 398' point.
~Peter
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Why do all of that. You can make an 800 ft pull easy enough if it's only 3 ea #8s and 1 ea #10 in 1" pvc. Where people mess up is putting factory 90's on the ends before pulling the cable. If you just leave the conduit sticking straight out of the trench on each end, pull the cable first and then install the 90's it's much easier. Friction is what kills a wire pull and every bend developes friction ( so don't have any if you can keep from it ).

It's easier to pull through 800 ft of straight conduit than it is to pull through 400 ft with say 180 degrees of bend in it. If the people feeding know to keep the conductors straight and there are no dirty couplings and gravel. Lots of good wire lube to reduce friction and it's a piece of cake.
 
growler said:
Why do all of that. You can make an 800 ft pull easy enough if it's only 3 ea #8s and 1 ea #10 in 1" pvc. Where people mess up is putting factory 90's on the ends before pulling the cable. If you just leave the conduit sticking straight out of the trench on each end, pull the cable first and then install the 90's it's much easier. Friction is what kills a wire pull and every bend developes friction ( so don't have any if you can keep from it ).

It's easier to pull through 800 ft of straight conduit than it is to pull through 400 ft with say 180 degrees of bend in it. If the people feeding know to keep the conductors straight and there are no dirty couplings and gravel. Lots of good wire lube to reduce friction and it's a piece of cake.
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I was also thinking about ease of repair if a section goes bad, hence the individual sections, maybe a overkill
 
growler said:
If you just leave the conduit sticking straight out of the trench on each end, pull the cable first and then install the 90's it's much easier.
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