Then I say the family should be forcibly removed from the property and placed into state custody, the house razed and hauled to a site capable of handling hazardous waste (remember, it contained boxes from Home Depot!), and the hole in the ground filled in. That'll teach them to use Carlon boxes next time.No, Jim's absolutely correct. If you use Carlon boxes purchased at a big box retailer you are a hack and always will be.
Try this one time for me. Next time you are making up wires, simply line them up evenly, all the same length, hold them together tightly and start the wingnut. Once it takes a good bite aftera couple of twists, keep going until the wires start twisting around themselves and you can't get it nmuch tighter. Then unscrew the nut and look at the ends. They will be twisted almost as tight as they would be if you used sidecutters.I would never consider installing wire nuts without first twisting.
Oh, I totally agree. Then they should never be allowed to build another house on that site because it is permanently contaminated.Then I say the family should be forcibly removed from the property and placed into state custody, the house razed and hauled to a site capable of handling hazardous waste (remember, it contained boxes from Home Depot!), and the hole in the ground filled in. That'll teach them to use Carlon boxes next time.
Only if they bought the boxes at Home Depot. If they purchased them at the supply house, they should have received that coveted "Certificate of Non-Hackery" to proudly place in the living room, should the local electrical inspector get invited for Sunday dinner some day.Oh, I totally agree. Then they should never be allowed to build another house on that site because it is permanently contaminated.
It is. 110.(B). But only if the instructions say NOT to twist. If they simply state it is not necessary, then you still can.Alot of wire wire nut manufacters due not require pre-twisting I always do. I have seen a brand of wire nuts (can not remeber the brand) were it said do not twist wire. So it would be Nec a violation to twist the wires
Sung to the tune of "I'm a Girl Watcher." :grin:I'm a pre-twister.
Or until the tip of the wirenut pops off.I'm not sure it matters if you pre-twist, but if you don't, then it's probably a good idea to crank that wire nut down until it stops.
That just proves it's operator failure.One other interesting note. This was a kitchen remodeled completed in the last 2 months. It did not take a lifetime of arcing to melt that wirenut.
That may be the result, but they are listed as pressure wire connectors, and, with rare exception, do not require pre-twisting. It's still encumbant upon the installer to make a proper connection, whether pre-twisting or not.When I pretwist, that's what makes the electrical and mechanical connection. The wire nut is just for insulation.
It looks like they didn't:Note that they did call that EC back for warranty.
I wonder why they didn't. :-?I went on a service call yesterday. One of the kitchen counter receptacles wasn't working.
This was a kitchen remodeled completed in the last 2 months.
Those pictured in the OP are a smurf tone of light blue. I'm putting my money on Cantex boxes. They aren't common around here because no supply house or big box carries Cantex, but we do have a lot of SuperBlue hacks....errr...I mean users around here.They're a lighter blue than the Carlon Zip-Boxes.
Using a more expensive product doesn't automatically correlate to superior work, either. It just means more money went into materials, perhaps even causing corner-cutting on more important matters, such as skilled workmanship.If installer used low price boxes its just likely wasnt only place he cut corners.
As should be obvious by now, I must challenge that statement. I haven't heard a real reason blue = hack yet.Still proof of a hack.