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Most cover plate screws are metal.
Should that be a concern? The NEC doesn't think so.
light switch in residential bathrooms
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Should that be a concern? The NEC doesn't think so.
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- Chapel Hill, NC
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- Retired Electrical Contractor
Again I say, so what if the switch is 6" away or 2' away. Shock from the switch is not the issue here. If it were they would say the switch must be 3' from the tub or something of that nature.
If I use plastic crews would the installation be Okay? I don't think so.
If I use plastic crews would the installation be Okay? I don't think so.
Should that be a concern? The NEC doesn't think so.
"Exposed non-current-carrying metal parts" or something like that.
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But the screws are grounded.
jxofaltrds
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Not on older switches w/o a ground screw.
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The fact is the code does not state if the screws, plate, switch, etc are grounded or not anyway. It is allowed, IMO, and it is quite clear. We can all argue all day about what should be allowed but, as I see it, the switch can abut the shower with no strings :grin: attached.
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One would hope so, but they're still non-current-carrying exposed metal parts.
Yeah, and so is a shower curtain rod.
And where in the NEC are shower rods covered?
jaylectricity
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I may have missed an English class or two because two of those three sentences make no sense.
It seems as if your opinion is that the installation is fine no matter where it is, yet it is not OK if you use plastic screws?
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Now that would make no sense. I never said nor implied that. I was making a point about plastic screws being irrelevant.
Tonybugs72
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I'm a little late to this thread but you need to put the dash between wall switch and controlled outlet. 210.70(1)
IMHO that reads you need both the switch and the controlled outlet in every habitable room and bathroom.
jwjrw
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I dont think it requires the switch in the room. Just that each room have a wall switch controlled outlet.
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Take a look at it again, the switch is not required to be within the room. The requirement is for "one wall switch-controlled lighting outlet", it says nothing about the location of the switch.
Tonybugs72
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Thanks for shining some light on what may be a gray area for me.
The punction mark (dash) has lead me to believe that at least one wall switch is installed in every habitable room for a controlled lighting outlet of that room.
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Thanks for shining some light on what may be a gray area for me.
The punction mark (dash) has lead me to believe that at least one wall switch is installed in every habitable room for a controlled lighting outlet of that room.
Hey if it were my house I would want the switch in the room, but the NEC doesn't really care about what I want.
hurk27
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Thanks for shining some light on what may be a gray area for me.
The punction mark (dash) has lead me to believe that at least one wall switch is installed in every habitable room for a controlled lighting outlet of that room.
And to back up Robs post (not that he needs it
)See below in red
And to add to this, if the NEC wanted to require the switch in the room then I think they would have used the wording as they did in 210.70(A)(3):
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quogueelectric
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On a job I did, a plumber installing grabbars in a shower ran a 3in deckscrew through the hot conductor in a cable. Believe me it was noticed almost immediately. Thank the lord that the victim was a young healthy surfer as opposed to the grandmother for which the apartment was built. The surfer was hung up for a long time before he could release. I feel that all metalic parts in a shower / tub should be grounded in the next code change.
hurk27
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Like to try to find that in the NEC?
3-ways are not an NEC requirment, local code maybe?
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