Lowe's guy wouldn't sell a FPE to a customer

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peter d

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hey. Not saying it's right. Just pointing out what can be real. On the bright side, I'm sure that a box store clerk could properly insure himself for a couple hundred bucks or less.

I know that....I'm just lamenting how lawsuit crazy people are.

FWIW I carry insurance and it costs me around $600 a year.
 

ramsy

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No doubt the box stores have an airtight way to seal them from liability already.

Policy is always legal, but practice may replace poor performers who disqualify sales. Volume stays high, and when the food chain is sued for negligence, firing at fault licenses proves they absorb any litigation.
 
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lbwireman

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So the guy just went down the street to Big Orange, kept his mouth shut, and bought his 30a breaker there.
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Ya can't fix stupid:rolleyes:
 

lbwireman

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If you're asking my opinion, I'd say yes. Seems like anytime you present yourself as an expert, you open yourself up for professional liability.

Certainly seems to fit the pattern of behaviour of those above the "paycheck to paycheck" income level; "accountability? We don't need no steenkin' accountability!" I once heard a Japanese axiom? proverb? "The nail that sticks up gets driven down." That said, I still offer suggestions where it seems it might prevent Darwin Award issuance. :rolleyes:
 

kbsparky

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Sign at a local wholesale supply house:

Do-it-yourself questions can not be answered here. Countermen are not qualified to give electrical advice.

Call a licensed Electrical Contractor.
 

wallyworld

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It was always my understanding they (home D and lowes) are not really allowed to give advice.

That makes sense , if I was a lawyer looking to sue someone because of advice a client followed from HD or Lowes, I'd sue the folks with the deepest pockets and I doubt thats the clerk
 

iwire

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So if I go to Lowe's to purchase a hammer but the person at the counter thinks I might hurt myself or my family with it they should refuse to sell it to me?

So if I go to Bass Pro to purchase a fishing rod but the person at the counter thinks I might hurt myself or my family with it they should refuse to sell it to me?

So if I go to a motorcycle shop to purchase an ATV but the person at the counter thinks I might hurt myself or my family with it they should refuse to sell it to me?

So if I go to a supermarket to purchase a pork but the person at the counter thinks I might under cook it and hurt myself or my family with it they should refuse to sell it to me?

I am very surprised at the number of members here that seem to forget all our rights when the subject is electrical supples.
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roger

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So if I go to Bass Pro to purchase a fishing rod but the person at the counter thinks I might hurt myself or my family with it they should refuse to sell it to me?

Well maybe not for that reason, but if he's going to be in my way on the lake come Saturday morning I would back the salespersons decision. :D

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iwire

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but if he's going to be in my way on the lake come Saturday morning I would back the salespersons decision. :D

:D Understood.

I know my post was bit over the top but I think the point is there. :smile:

I am willing to bet Minuteman would be very upset if he went to buy anything he was legally allowed to and was refused by the store clerk based on that clerks personal opinion.
 

SEO

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Michigan
The FPE breaker is only one example of a homeowner installing a product that is not code complient for the application. I see it almost everytime I inspect a homeowners job. The only way to help curb the problem is to make it illegal to buy electrical equipment without a contractors license. NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN!
 

nakulak

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I don't care what anyone says about their right to buy stuff, the fact is the guy at Lowe's made a wise and thoughtful decision based on the circumstances and information available, and in this world that is all anyone could ever ask of someone. Bless his heart, and give him a gold star for the day. I applaud his thoughfulness.
 

roger

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The only way to help curb the problem is to make it illegal to buy electrical equipment without a contractors license. NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN!

And it really shouldn't however, one city close to me has a very simple test to show mechanical skills and basic electrical understanding a HO must take and pass before they can pull a permit.

IMO, I think weekend warrior mechanics working on brakes and front ends put more people at risk than the DIYer electrical repairers.

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growler

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:D Understood.

I know my post was bit over the top but I think the point is there. :smile:

I am willing to bet Minuteman would be very upset if he went to buy anything he was legally allowed to and was refused by the store clerk based on that clerks personal opinion.

I agree, you can buy a car, motorcycle, boat, chain saw or even a gun and have no knowledge of how to safely use any of them. The customer accepts responsibility for their use at the time of purchase.

A homeowner is considered fully qualified by law to do work on their own home, the only qualification necessary is that they own the home.
 

iwire

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I don't care what anyone says about their right to buy stuff,

Well that is pretty sad to throw away our rights.


the fact is the guy at Lowe's made a wise and thoughtful decision based on the circumstances and information available, and in this world that is all anyone could ever ask of someone. Bless his heart, and give him a gold star for the day. I applaud his thoughfulness.

And if it was you that a simple store clerk refused to sell something to you would raise the roof.

Very hypocritical.
 
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