Mike Hamner
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Is it a code requirement to install the meter can on the house? I would like to install a 400 amp service and take a 200 amp service to my house and another 200 amp service to my shop .
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Mike Hamner
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Mr. Pete
Thank you ! Now any advice on how to make the small town inspector believe this. I have talked to my power company Engineer and he said what I have done is great because I am going from a over head to a under ground service. Thanks
Thank you ! Now any advice on how to make the small town inspector believe this. I have talked to my power company Engineer and he said what I have done is great because I am going from a over head to a under ground service. Thanks
rcarroll
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- Fort Collins, Colorado
Check w/ your POCO. If they own or have control of the meter, 90.2(B)(5)(a) might help you.
Good luck
Good luck
Buck Parrish
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- NC & IN
I don't see any thing wrong with it. As long as you have a 4- wire, (08)disconnects and grd. rods at the house.
Jim W in Tampa
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- Tampa Florida
Tell the inspector poco is ok with it and unless he can find a code number he best pass it. What your doing is not much differant than a mobile home. You will need 4 conductors and extra ground rods at house , pole and the other location.
charlie
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- Indianapolis
Assuming you are within the rules laid out by the serving electric utility for the rate for your shop (if you have too much commercial load, the rate will be different than the residential rate), you should be able to use 230.40 Exception 3 and save a bucket of money since you don't have to go through the rate steps twice, pay an additional meter charge, install a 400 ampere disconnecting means/overcurrent protection, and a grounding conductor to each building.
Pierre C Belarge
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- Westchester County, New York
Is the goal of your installation scenario to eliminate the need for a CT cabinet and install 2-200amp meterpans?
Sierrasparky
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- USA
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- Electrician ,contractor
What's wrong with a REsi 400 amp with 2 200 amp sub feeds. No special CT cabinet , meter an Mains all in one.
1 to go whoooooooooooo :grin:
Is there a reason he has to run 4 wire? Can't he just put a 400A meter socket on a pole and run two 200A services out of it with 3 wires each (no disconnect at the meter)? At each building, you'll have a main Service disconnect and then have to use 4 wires for all feeders past that.
mcclary's electrical
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- VA
That would be illegal. All services have to be grouped. In your case, they would not be grouped.
iMuse97
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- Chicagoland
The family farm where I grew up has 4 main services, and they are all within 1/4 mile of each other; is that grouped enough?
charlie
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- Location
- Indianapolis
Good comment
Good comment
Good comment
You are absolutely correct. Without a service (a meter is not a service, it is just a wide place in the conduit), there is no reason for a 4th conductor. The service disconnecting means and overcurrent protection may be installed at each building.
charlie
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- Indianapolis
All services on each building is required to be grouped.
Power Tech
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- Lebec, California
Just did a job with a 400 amp panel. Backboard 200' from the house.
Square d has a meter service with 2, 200 amp breakers, one to go to the house and one for a distribution panel.
You could install another 200 or a push on.
I run a #4 ground wire to the house and separate neutrals and grounds. I have been told I do not have to do that though.
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