Neutral on the ground bar?

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Hello and thank you for taking time to read my post. I am not an electrician, but have general knowledge with residental wiring. I was replacing a defective breaker in a friend of mine's main service panel when I noticed something.

The neutral coming from the meter base into the panel was connected to the ground buss bar and the ground coming in was connected to the neutral buss bar, the neutral jumper bar was in place. Is this something that he should be concerned with? Should he call a qualified electrician to take a look or is this normal?

Thanks again for your time.
Rex

[ November 03, 2005, 02:51 PM: Message edited by: Rexmaster ]
 
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I have to ask about this "defective" breaker. I get tons of calls where the homeonwer has a defective breaker. It is NEVER a defective breaker. What makes peole automatically think that a "breaker has gone bad". My guess is that it is a mindset leftover from the blown fuse days.
 
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Scott, A breaker is defective when it keeps tripping, thats why they sell those single pole 30's at the Home Depot. :roll:

And why are we helping a DIYer anyhow. Its against the rules of the forum and basically it makes a mockery of our trade. :mad:
 
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Scott, A breaker is defective when it keeps tripping, thats why they sell those single pole 30's at the Home Depot.
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AMEN!
 
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I am not an electrician, but have general knowledge with residental wiring. I was replacing a defective breaker in a friend of mine's main service panel when I noticed something.
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I'm not a brain surgeon, but have a general knowledge of the brain, I was preforming brain sugery on my friends friend and I came across some blood vessels that came from the eye balls that were connected to the blood vessels that were coming from the area around the spinal cord is this something I should be concerned with, please don't ignore me just because I am a DIYBS ( Do it yourself brain surgeon) :(

[ November 03, 2005, 08:28 PM: Message edited by: Jhr ]
 
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Can't people on here be a little more civil to the DIY'ers? It's called tact and it goes a long way. Get off the high horse.
 
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A bit of advice that you will not like.Your setting yourself up for prison if anything ever goes wrong and someone dies.I tell this to our helpers that brag about side jobs.Your working with no license or insurance.Is a 12 pack worth what your risking ?You already proved you have no buisness in a panel.Please stop before you kill yourself or someone else.If you want to be an electrician then great but get hired on by a company.
 
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Originally posted by paul:
Can't people on here be a little more civil to the DIY'ers? It's called tact and it goes a long way. Get off the high horse.
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Paul, read your signature tagline. There is a legal-liability issue here. "Well, that's what they told me on the NEC Forum, so the fire is their fault!"
 
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Paul lighten up I have no problems with a DIY comeing on this forum, heck I'm a DIY, I do drywall, plumbing, landscape and not to mention a little brain surgery all by myself and somtimes when I am riding in my electrical service van alone I do electrical work by my self, I even throw out the trash by my self, I ask my wife if she could help,and guess what she said "HEY DIY, I have shopping to do" :( , its all in fun I hope no one is offended by my stale try at comedy after all I am a DIY comic, what a silly rule. :D
 
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The problem is DIYers have no clue and they pull no permit. I could careless if they burn down there own house but the next person who buys the house does not know about all the hack work. Its even sold as a selling point "updated electrical" :eek: then they have a problem, call us and we say its F#####ed it all has to come out. Guess who ends up looking bad. Thats right, Us. I will not support this unethical, unsafe behavior.
 
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Originally posted by paul:
Can't people on here be a little more civil to the DIY'ers? It's called tact and it goes a long way. Get off the high horse.
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Uh yeah. Ok. Who was it that said "Electrical wiring is not a hobby"?
Obviously someone with no tact.
 
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This whole thread has pretty much got me cracking up. I wish I could see the look on the DIYers face when he comes back the read the replys. :D LOL
 
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Originally posted by Leitmotif:
ROTFLMAO

and what does this stand for??
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Rolling on th e floor laughing my a s s off would be my guess.
 
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This one has some funny answers on it. Sadly diy's are not all funny when it comes to electrical. I am wiring an addition at present, to a home that is owned by an invalid man. You should see the dangerous wiring mess I found in his attic, which his "uncle" did for him as a favor. It is probably going to take me 2 days to clean it all up, and cost him plenty. I will post some pictures later in the photo's forum so you can see what I am talking about. This poor homeowner would have never got out in a fire.
 
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Originally posted by electricmanscott:
Originally posted by paul:
Can't people on here be a little more civil to the DIY'ers? It's called tact and it goes a long way. Get off the high horse.
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Uh yeah. Ok. Who was it that said "Electrical wiring is not a hobby"?
Obviously someone with no tact.
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I think you missed the point. You can tell somebody to go to H*ll so that they're looking forward to the trip, rather than telling them what they're doing is making a mockery of our trade.
 
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