panel makeup

[izak]

hey I would like to get some input on how different contractors figure time for panel trimout/makeup.

how long do you expect it to take someone to make up a panel (assuming it is full)


does quality matter very much, or do you just want it done?


and the burning question behind this post:
how long would you allow for these panels posted as pics?

 

[ItsHot]

do it right!

do it right!

If it is worth doing, its worth doing right! About 2 hours for this panel,including tie-wraps!

 

[izak]

it took a little bit longer than that, but im just getting started, also, I had to trace out missing circuits and push a little wire

I havent got to the two hour point yet tho...

 

[mdshunk]

As neat as it needs to be as quickly as possible.

Check back in on your artwork in 10 years, and someone will have turned your Mona Lisa into dogs playing poker.

 

[code_compliant]

If it's a full panel (no likely additions) at makeup and the ckts have been counted first, I say go for it. If I catch someone cutting ty-wraps to add a circuit or two....I don't think so.

 

[peter d]

Check back in on your artwork in 10 years, and someone will have turned your Mona Lisa into dogs playing poker.

Or in the case of commercial office space, may rip the circuits out entirely and start again....many times over.

 

[480sparky]

...Check back in on your artwork in 10 years, and someone will have turned your Mona Lisa into dogs playing poker.

On felt .

 

[mike johnson]

Looks neat.

Looks neat.

Looks ok with the exception of choking the conductors with tie raps. I disaprove using tie raps inside a load center, let the conductors breath, also makes it easier to relocate in case of a gfci or arc fault breaker coming in later on. 114 minutes tops for this panel and anything less no one is allowed to touch it.

 

[480sparky]

Why does most everyone scream and moan when they see NM "bundled" together, but very few say anything when it's THHN in a panel treated the same way?

 

[ItsHot]

good question

good question

Why does most everyone scream and moan when they see NM "bundled" together, but very few say anything when it's THHN in a panel treated the same way?

Good question! I guess because we know we bundle about 18# 12s(thnn) into a half inch pipe!:roll: :roll:

 

[360Youth]

I have to have a neat panel. I will do it quickly and not overly excessive (opinions may vary :smile: ), but it has to be neat. Your pics look a-1 to me.

As neat as it needs to be as quickly as possible.

Check back in on your artwork in 10 years, and someone will have turned your Mona Lisa into dogs playing poker.

I am just as adamant that many years (plus a few) later.

 

[izak]

ok, as an encore, I would like to see some more pictures posted... especially from the 'make it look decent and get it done' crowd.

 

[mdshunk]

ok, as an encore, I would like to see some more pictures posted... especially from the 'make it look decent and get it done' crowd.

Why would a man willingly subject himself to abuse like that?

 

[cadpoint]

Banding is a personal preference, IMO.

A question for the OP'r. Why don't you carry the odd circuit to the odd side neutral bar? Don't you circuit number your neutrals?
I guess I've done shown my cards.

!! Nice Looking Work !!

 

[e57]

ok, as an encore, I would like to see some more pictures posted... especially from the 'make it look decent and get it done' crowd.

I usually don't take pics of that level of panel... But I have done similar work to the ones in the OP - I'll sign them! (Still no pics...)

But there ARE two ways of doing that type of work.... With a little practice it doesn't take long - and with use of my patented wire comb it a lot less hassle...

What is it - it is my hand - well adept at straightening wire, and turning at uniform radi.... Depending on my general additude...

 

[bikeindy]

I wonder about the voting I think #1 get voted by the employee and #2 by the employer. I voted #2

 

[LarryFine]

ok, as an encore, I would like to see some more pictures posted... especially from the 'make it look decent and get it done' crowd.

I believe I qualify for that group. I don't use wire-ties, I hand-bend wires fast, and I don't pretty-up my panels for the pictures.

Here's a before-and-after (breakers, that is). The staples are because the open ceiling is about 3-1/2 feet up. There are two cables in every KO except for the SER's.

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[480sparky]

ok, as an encore, I would like to see some more pictures posted... especially from the 'make it look decent and get it done' crowd.

OK, but it's been a while since I done one like dat....

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[infinity]

My panels would look similar to the first photo in the OP, only thing missing is numbers on the conductors, especially the neutrals:

http://forums.mikeholt.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1797&d=1213311791

 

[mark32]

The op's panel looks sweet. Do you guys leave a little slack for future repairs, both the feeders and branch circuits?