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Whoooo!!!! David's a little testy today isn't he. :grin:

The truth is David, you don't know anything about how any of us do our work, you just don't like hearing the truth that doesn't agree with your whims and wishes.

If you want the code to reflect your whims and wishes, submitt proposals to have the code changed, in the mean time, inspect as to what the code requires, nothing more and nothing less.


Roger
 
dnem said:
The fact that you think taking pride in your work "is wasteful and foolish" tells me alot about what kind of electrician you are.



I ran a midsized EC before my inspector days and my perspective was, and is, those that don't take pride in their work have no place working for me.



This cuts right to the point that I'm making. . There are those that don't even understand pride in work. . It's all about "couldn't red tag an installation".

"couldn't red tag an installation for any of the above so what's the point of the questions?"
The fact that you don't even understand why the questions are being asked tells me more than your answers to those questions would tell me.

Bob, Peter, + Roger
You guys continue just as you are. . Do whatever you wish. . I'm going to continue to be "wasteful and foolish". . I never chased the bottom of the barrel jobs when I was a contractor and I never will. . If I go back into contracting, I'll bid jobs that are looking for "wasteful and foolish" installation. . If I have to get work by leading with a basement price instead of selling quality, then there's no reason to be in business.

I inspect the bottom feeders work everyday. . They literally run thru their jobsites chasing a bid that barely pays their bills. . They are some of the most unhappy electricians I have ever met. . Some of their employees make more than they do. . And their employees are among the worst paid.
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I may be new to the game but almost all my coworkers feel the same as you. Glad to hear this from an inspector.
 
dnem said:
The fact that you think taking pride in your work "is wasteful and foolish" tells me alot about what kind of electrician you are.
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None of us said taking pride in your work is wasteful and foolish.

You where an EC?

Then I can say without a doubt that on every job you ever did there where areas that where code minimum.

Did you ever run 12 AWG for 20 amp circuits?

Did you ever install just one wall switch in a bedroom?

Did you ever install just one 20 amp receptacle circuit to a bathroom?

Did you only use a 100 amp rated panel at the end of a 100 amp feeder?

If yes to any of the above then by your posts here you where in fact 'unprofessional" :grin:
 
dnem said:
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Bob, Peter, + Roger
You guys continue just as you are. . Do whatever you wish.
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I'm honored to be in such good company. :cool: I can't speak for Bob and Roger but I will continue just as I am. I don't build artwork for people...I build electrical systems.
 
roger said:
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I know you weren't asking me but I will answer, Yes to all of the above, and you couldn't red tag an installation for any of the above so what's the point of the questions?

Roger
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roger said:
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..... in the mean time, inspect as to what the code requires, nothing more and nothing less.


Roger
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This is the second time you've entered this discussion and still don't understand that we're not talking about inspections nor code requirements. . There is no dispute here about the requirements.

We're talking about professional quality.
 
stickboy1375 said:
Not me, just do the job, inspect to code. pretty simple. Next he will be telling the owner what a hack job he just paid for... :mad:
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When I show up to inspect your job, I'll inspect your job.
When I post here, I'll post my opinion.
 
iwire said:
Did you ever run 12 AWG for 20 amp circuits?

Did you ever install just one wall switch in a bedroom?

Did you ever install just one 20 amp receptacle circuit to a bathroom?

Did you only use a 100 amp rated panel at the end of a 100 amp feeder?

If yes to any of the above then by your posts here you where in fact 'unprofessional" :grin:
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I've posted this twice on this thread already. . I'll post it again here.

At times there isn't a good reason to build above minimum [ex: why would anyone daisychain a short 120v/20a plug circuit in 10gauge]. . At other times exceeding the minimum is the mark of quality and professional installation. . Defining the code minimum can be hard. . Determining when to exceed it can sometimes be even harder.
 
dnem said:
This is the second time you've entered this discussion and still don't understand that we're not talking about inspections nor code requirements. . There is no dispute here about the requirements.

We're talking about professional quality.
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David's still a little testy isn't he. :grin:

Okay everybody, get your last jabs in because this thread is soon to be closed, it has run it's course and it isn't going anywhere as far as being constructive, and it certainly is not pertainent to the OP IMO. ;)

Roger
 
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dnem said:
Pointing to a lack of pride in the work by their current EC was my #1 way of selling my installations. . I would point to the job that was currently on site during the open/rough stage and ask the owner or GC if they were confident in the quality of the work being done based on the corner cutting, sloppiness, and look of hurry that they saw before them in the current job by their current EC.
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If I had to go around bad-mouthing someone else's work to get jobs, I'd get a different job.

If a contractor came to me and started running down my subs I would never even consider hiring them.

And you have the nerve to call someone else a "bottom feeder". :rolleyes:
 
Flex said:
I may be new to the game but almost all my coworkers feel the same as you. Glad to hear this from an inspector.
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