Smoking

[Smart $]

Year 2020 Help Wanted Add.
Journeyman Electrician: Must be male, under 30 years of age with at least 20 years of experience, drug free, non-drinker, non-smoker, vegetarian, less than 2% body fat, capable of working 48 hours shifts without a break. Those that are genetically modified or having cybernetic implants preferred. Brain scan and DNA profile required. Low pay and no benefits. Human, Robots, Democrats, Independants, and Republicans all welcome, we are an equal opportunity employeer.

Edited to insure all parties were included in the equal opportunity language

Now that is comical (no insult intended :grin: ) but oh so close to what I see for the future.

edited to add italics

 

[boboelectric]

Zyban and kids made me quit.
Bob o.84,Pa.15330

 

[tonyou812]

I smoked when I was a helper and there were many times that i would "forget" something in the truck so i could sneak a quick one. But I quit almost two years now and I find it very annoying when were on a job that needs to "get done asap" and guys are taking way to many smoke breaks, and sometimes they go out in herds. What makes this ok? That would be like me going to the bathroom 12 times a day. But this has become accepted behavior in our society. I went to look at a car the other day and as soon as we went outside to look at the truck the salesman lights up and even on the test drive he lit up in the car as we pulled into the lot. People smoke in groups outside buildings, it nuts. Basically if you hire a guy that smokes you should just assume he is going to light up, and just accept it. I personally find it unfair to pay a smoker less (unless you plan on tracking all his moves) than a non smoker because that shows favoritism, and you would need to prove that they work less than a non smoker. But who is to say you cant pay a nonsmoker more because of the less chance of him stealing time.

 

[bikeindy]

No, not the rule... blame the person or persons that made the [so-called] rule.


That don't even compare. Though I'm not advising you to do so, should you really, really want to sneakers to work, you'd be facing the same dilemma, but only in part, that I face going to work for an employer that has a no-smoking policy. Now if you are willing to wear boots for the sake of employment, no problemo. If you aren't willing...

I can not believe that you are really As Ignorant as you make yourself out to be here. I really believe that if you think as you are leading on here, you are a product of what is really wrong in this country. I see your point to this degree, I don't think the Government has any business whatsoever in protecting me from myself or making laws that are unreasonable, and we have many of them. Seat belts come to mind since not one seat belt would save a life if people just drove better I have been driving for 22 years and have NEVER had or been in an accident and it's because I am an awesome driver plain and simple I have avoided many many accidents from pure skill and alertness. But smoking as you have stated is a personal choice that you made and an employer requiring a smoke free work day is not unreasonable because it is HIS money that pays you and if he offers benifits it is less costly to him and others that don't smoke, to have his work force smoke free. now you can go to work for someone else and smoke if they alow it and tollerate it. But that comes down to choice again, your arguments hold no water they are ignorant plain and simple. Just because you choose to be an addict doesn't mean the rest of the world has to put up with your addiction. If it was up to me and you really believed your plight was so bad I would just shoot you and put you out of your, mine and the rest of the worlds misery. My main guy said to me a couple of weeks ago as we drove back to the shop and watched the dregs of society walk the streets, "If I had a terminal cancer I would take care of a lot of this worlds problems"

 

[electricmanscott]

But smoking as you have stated is a personal choice that you made and an employer requiring a smoke free work day is not unreasonable because it is HIS money that pays you and if he offers benifits it is less costly to him and others that don't smoke, to have his work force smoke free. now you can go to work for someone else and smoke if they alow it and tollerate it.

Exactly!! However many people would rather make it a "discrimination" issue. :roll:

 

[George Stolz]

Finally, I get the last word in a thread.

Finally, I get the last word in a thread.

...Ignorant ... product of what is really wrong in this country... ignorant plain and simple....I would just shoot you and put you out of your, mine and the rest of the worlds misery....

Hey, somebody poke this thread - I believe it is done.