Spot the violations, Part 1005

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480sparky

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Did a service upgrade today, started with this:

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I can't see that close in, is there a main disconnect?
 
Gas pipe in the working space is the only thing I don't really like in that pic, but it looks much more modern (maybe even brand new) when compared to the Pushmatic panel. The biggest tragedy I see hasn't really happened yet. I see that the quality Pushmatic equipment is soon going to be replaced with some Homeline junk.
 
code_compliant said:
Just out of curiosity, where do the service entrance conductors go? It doesn't look like it 90's out above the sill plate.

It offsets and goes up the inside of the wall to the roof.

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acrwc10 said:
I can't see that close in, is there a main disconnect?

Here's the original photo. Warning: it's a large file, so dialup users may not want to wait.

mdshunk said:
Gas pipe in the working space is the only thing I don't really like in that pic, but it looks much more modern (maybe even brand new) when compared to the Pushmatic panel. The biggest tragedy I see hasn't really happened yet. I see that the quality Pushmatic equipment is soon going to be replaced with some Homeline junk.

The HO is installing geothermal, and 100a just ain't a gonna cut it.
 
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I don't see that one strand of NM on a running board and the NM going to the panel is likely under six feet in an unfinished basement. Needs to be in conduit.
 
code_compliant said:
Have you got pictures of the final product?

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This isn't the final product, just as far as I got today. I still need to strap the pipes in place, and box around the top of the panel.

The gas lines are going to go bye-bye in a couple weeks, when the geothermal is installed.

Edit to add: I had to change the backerboad. The only thing holding the old plywood up was the old panel.
 
Around here the violation would be the meter in the basement. Every time I see one of you guys post a pic with a meter in the basemet.......

Do the meter readers have keys to every house or do they have to make an appointment with the homeowner to read it?:-?
 
frizbeedog said:
Around here the violation would be the meter in the basement. Every time I see one of you guys post a pic with a meter in the basemet.......

Do the meter readers have keys to every house or do they have to make an appointment with the homeowner to read it?:-?

Usually, the POCO here will read the meter once, maybe twice a year, by appointment. They extrapolate current usage based on prior years. Slowly, the basement meters are being replaced as old services, like this one, get upgraded.

Some meters are capable of sending an RF signal to a passing meter-reading truck, but this usually solves the problem:

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frizbeedog said:
Around here the violation would be the meter in the basement. Every time I see one of you guys post a pic with a meter in the basemet.......

Do the meter readers have keys to every house or do they have to make an appointment with the homeowner to read it?:-?
That appears to be an AMR meter in the pic, but yeah, they often do have keys to the homes. My former home had the gas meter in the basement, and if I was home, the meter reader would basically just come on in the house that was normally unlocked, holler "Meter reader" and trek on down to the basement. Freaked my wife out every time.
 
mdshunk said:
I see that the quality Pushmatic equipment is soon going to be replaced with some Homeline junk.

Pushmatic holds up well. Most of the ones I see are in excellent condition.

On the other hand I know a few people that feel the way you do about Homeline. I use QO Type. What's the beef with Homeline.
 
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480sparky said:
Usually, the POCO here will read the meter once, maybe twice a year. They extrapolate current usage based on prior years.

Some meters are capable of sending an RF signal to a passing meter-reading truck, but this usually solves the problem:

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Is that an electrical poltergeist in the pic??:smile:
 
ItsHot said:
Is that an electrical poltergeist in the pic??:smile:

Flare of light in the lens from the sun. The meter's on the North side, east end of the house, so I'm looking right at the sun at about 3:00 PM.

frizbeedog said:
Pushmatic holds up well. Most of the ones I see are in excellent condition.

On the other hand I know a few people that feel the way you do about Homeline. I use QO Type. What's the beef with Homeline.

Pushmatics are common for panels here, but replacement breakers are about as common as honest politicians.

Aren't QOs and HOs the same, just the HOs don't have the visi-trip?
 
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ItsHot said:
Marc would have painted the backerboard!:) :grin:

As well as the 3/4 boards that are between the panel and the backerboard. :D :D I couldn't get the panel to sit flat on the new backer, owing to the existing conduits. So I got some 1x4s and cut them to fill the gap between the panel & backer. You just can't see them.

code_compliant said:
I think it looks real good. Two questions.

What do you usually do with the old mast?

Do you prefer EMT over PVC? I can't think of the last time I saw a residential service in EMT

Old mast is just left in place. I'll let the roofers deal with it, as well as the old ancher bolt when the house gets a new lid.
I prefer EMT. I've seen PVC shatter when it gets real cold here. Some services like these are on the side of the house with the driveway, or a sidewalk, and snowblowers and snowplows can crack PVC pretty easy.

frizbeedog said:
I'm assuming you tied into the old drop till they swing it, but it's hard to see any wires between the two masts.

They're there, just the sunlight washes 'em out. I'm looking to upgrade my point-n-shoot to a true DSLR.
 
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