Stranded wires under screws

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peter d said:
That is interesting. I'll take that to mean that P&S's instruction must supercede the general UL listing. :confused:
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I don't see how it could be UL listed at all (the link says it is) if it does not match what the UL General directory says. I am at a loss to explain it and hope someone here (Jim D, I am calling you. :cool:) can explain it.
 
iwire said:
This is very strange .......... at least to me.
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It is to me as well. Until I looked at the P&S website I didn't relize that the CR series receptacles were not intended to be used with stranded wire. I had always assumed (yes I know :)) that ALL wire binding terminals on receptacles were good for both stranded and solid wire.

Chris
 
iwire said:
Thanks Celtic, your on top of it. :D
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:grin:

I'm trying to play catch up.....after the first post on CR devices...I went to the P&S site, find the info, wrote a reply ~ and then answered the phone.

When I hung up...I hit "Submit reply"....it looked like a train wreck in reverse...but I was now committed to posting something...ANYTHING....and there ya have it.

A slow ground ball to give time to catch up.:cool:
 
iwire said:
Because the customer does not want to pay for better devices?
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good point, but a BR20 is what, $2, $2.50? Seems like any savings would be lost to the time spend twisting wires around screws and monkeying with fork terminals.
 
wireguru said:
good point, but a BR20 is what, $2, $2.50? Seems like any savings would be lost to the time spend twisting wires around screws and monkeying with fork terminals.
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It takes me no time at all, no fork terms, no backward twisting, no little piece of insulation.

Would I rather the pressure plate type? You bet! :smile:
 
raider1 said:
Yes, according to P&S the CR series devices only accept #14 through #10 solid conductors, while the BR series will accept either stranded or solid wire.

HERE is a link to a page with information on the P&S CR series receptacles.

Chris
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Most likely this may be because they only paid to have the product tested to the types of terminations as mentioned as opposed to pay for all of the testing that may be necessary to have a product listed.
 
Pierre C Belarge said:
Most likely this may be because they only paid to have the product tested to the types of terminations as mentioned as opposed to pay for all of the testing that may be necessary to have a product listed.
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Pierre I don't see what that has to do with it. Per the white book a UL listed receptacle is listed for stranded, if the manufacturer wants a listing they have to meet the requirements. I do not believe they can pick and choose which parts of a particular listing they want to apply.
 
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