Stranded wires under screws

[RHJohnson]

I've tried everyone of those terminations with stranded wire. Only one I really like is the pressure plate.
Don't understand everyone getting all worked up over the way they do it. I think we all know what would be the "BEST" way to terminate the stranded wire on a device w/out pressure plate. Now what matters is "HOW" we choose to terminate.

 

[steelersman]

One more time...GO STEELERS...GO STEELERS:grin:

I'll second that.

HERE WE GO STEELERS, HERE WE GO!!

 

[tonyou812]

Are there any devices rated for back stabbing a #12 stranded wire?

I just strip the 12 wire with the 14 hole on the strippers......works every time.......

 

[tonyou812]

Sorry man but I gotta go with Arizona. Im rooting for Kurt Warrner.

 

[steelersman]

Sorry man but I gotta go with Arizona. Im rooting for Kurt Warrner.

After all that you told me about you and your wife liking the Steelers as your second team after the Jets?

 

[LarryFine]

I was always under the impression that it was an NEC code violation to install stranded wires under a screw (only) termination. Am I wrong?

Well, you tell us. Have an NEC nearby?

 

[LarryFine]

IMO... this is better.
And I didn't even use a pliers... I skun it with my teeth.
An spit the insulation on the floor.
:smile:

I wanna see the tooth you tightened the screw with! :grin:

 

[LarryFine]

This was last read back in apprenticeship days (84-88), but still works if you don't have a sta-kon available.

I bet it would work even if you did have a Sta-Kon available. :wink:

 

[LarryFine]

For those who like taping over device screws, do you use white on the grounded-conductor side and black on the ungrounded side?

What about green tape over the EGC screw? :grin:

 

[Mule]

For those who like taping over device screws, do you use white on the grounded-conductor side and black on the ungrounded side?

What about green tape over the EGC screw? :grin:

What ever is handy...Brn Or Yel Blk Rd, Bl never know !!

 

[LarryFine]

I've tried everyone of those terminations with stranded wire. Only one I really like is the pressure plate.

I agree, it's the best termination for stranded conductors, but I have no problems with just screws.

Interestingly, it sux for solid conductors; the screw slot strips out before you can get it tight enough.

 

[Greg Swartz]

For those who like taping over device screws, do you use white on the grounded-conductor side and black on the ungrounded side?

What about green tape over the EGC screw? :grin:

What ever is handy...Brn Or Yel Blk Rd, Bl never know !!

So, would that be a duplex with a high leg?

 

[Mule]

So, would that be a duplex with a high leg?

Which brings up a question....the other day I was looking through a "Ugly's" book and seen a diagram Brn Purp Yel.....not Brn Or yel.....??? Never seen that....that dont spell anything...:smile:

 

[LarryFine]

Which brings up a question....the other day I was looking through a "Ugly's" book and seen a diagram Brn Purp Yel.....not Brn Or yel.....??? Never seen that....that dont spell anything...:smile:

You bet your sweet bippy!

 

[Greg Swartz]

Which brings up a question....the other day I was looking through a "Ugly's" book and seen a diagram Brn Purp Yel.....not Brn Or yel.....??? Never seen that....that dont spell anything...:smile:

Sure! That would mean a 3rd phase switch leg! :roll:

 

[Rockyd]

Originally Posted by Mule
Which brings up a question....the other day I was looking through a "Ugly's" book and seen a diagram Brn Purp Yel.....not Brn Or yel.....??? Never seen that....that dont spell anything...

only thing it has going for it, is that it is somewhat alphabetical...bpy

 

[steelersman]

Sure! That would mean a 3rd phase switch leg! :roll:

don't you mean a high leg?

http://forums.mikeholt.com/showthread.php?t=107405&highlight=brown+purple+yellow

 

[chris kennedy]

Which brings up a question....the other day I was looking through a "Ugly's" book and seen a diagram Brn Purp Yel.....not Brn Or yel.....??? Never seen that....that dont spell anything...:smile:

Brown, purple, yellow is what I use. It appears the NEC has a requirement for orange that has nothing to do with a 480 wye system.

110.15 High-Leg Marking.
On a 4-wire, delta-connected system where the midpoint of one phase winding is grounded, only the conductor or busbar having the higher phase voltage to ground shall be durably and permanently marked by an outer finish that is orange in color or by other effective means. Such identification shall be placed at each point on the system where a connection is made if the grounded conductor is also present.

 

[ohm]

It might be ok (Stranded under screw) but the screw seems loose to me. If it was tight the strands would be spilling out from under the screw. No offense, but when I see it done like that I think to myself "What a hack!" It only takes a second to crimp a sta-kon on (with the proper tool, not linemans pliers.) and tighten the screw to proper torque. Btw, what does the listing instructions say this? I dought it says use stranded for either screw or back-stab.

I don't measure how well a method works for someone else, just how well it works for me.

I don't believe a forked lug has the circular mill area of either a solid or a stranded wire and it certainly doesn't wrap the screw 270 deg.

 

[ohm]

Almost forgot...go steelers