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While visiting my daughter last week I was finally able to get a few pictures of her electric service.

It just looks wrong to have the SE exposed at about a height of 4' above grade along the side of the house.

The house is about 3 years old.



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SE fine...

SE fine...

I just cannot get my head around this. The Physical Damage is my hang-up. It does not appear that this is very well protected.

There is so much on this forum about NM/UF in conduit for protection in some very unlikely places where exposed to physical damage and then I see this.:confused:
 
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Looks like thousands of home around here and the only damage I have seen has been age cracks in the SE jacket. If next to a driveway the meter would have bollards. If next to a walkway it would have a pipe bracket with 2 90's in front of the meter.
 
lowryder88h said:
Been done that way for as I can remember here in Mass. Look at 230.50 (A) (B). If its questionable ask local AHJ.:)
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I have worked in and for different Municipalities and 230.50 would be enforced on that installation Norb. Also, my first reply was the SER connector is a dry type connector and the length of the SER....I know 230.70(A)(1) nearest the point of entrance.......When I see SER I usually assume...
 
This just looks wrong...

1793 said:
While visiting my daughter last week I was finally able to get a few pictures of her electric service.

It just looks wrong to have the SE exposed at about a height of 4' above grade along the side of the house.

The house is about 3 years old.



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The house is only 3yrs. old and the meter socket is boxed in by the siding?
I find that closing the meter socket in that way creates condensation and rots the siding in back of it. I once tried to pull a meter and ended up pulling the meter socket from the building.
 
This is a very common service all over New England.

There is no reason to use a wet connector on the bottom side of the meter socket.

I can walk in most supply houses around here and buy a 'service pack' in that pack will be two dry SE connectors, (out of meter and into panel) a wet SE connector, a sill plate, a weather head, and 10 SE clips.

If this was on a driveway in my area they would look for a raceway.
 
romeo said:
The house is only 3yrs. old and the meter socket is boxed in by the siding?
I find that closing the meter socket in that way creates condensation and rots the siding in back of it. I once tried to pull a meter and ended up pulling the meter socket from the building.
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It was probably there as temp power for construction. We are supposed to pull and then re-attach meter socket when siding is installed here.

Tom
 
This looks like 99% of all the installations around here and is code compliant. SEU cable does not require a sill cap or physical protection unless there is a potential for damage. Certainly 4' above grade would be out of harms way unless this were installed in a driveway or similar location. The connector on the bottom is fine as long as it's below any exposed live parts of the meter pan interior.
 
dcspector said:
OK Bob.....different / regions areas would not pass it. I did not say WET... Dry location only....Damp is not Dry.....
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Why do we even use the NEC if an installation is good in one state but yet not another? Your state accepted the 2005 nec correct? They why would that installation not pass?
 
dcspector said:
OK Bob.....different / regions areas would not pass it. I did not say WET... Dry location only....Damp is not Dry.....
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Does it rain upside down in DC? Do you think that lid even seals water where it contacts the meter? I've never heard of anyone turning down a dry type connector in the bottom of a 3R enclosure (until just now). What's the special issue? The bottom of those enclosures even have drain holes.
 
stickboy1375 said:
Why do we even use the NEC if an installation is good in one state but yet not another?
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Same book same rules, just a different interpretation of 'subject to damage'.

As long as everyone is on the same page it makes little difference. :)
 
Marc I am not about to change my ways but he has a valid point.

All these connectors say "Dry Location" or even "Dry Location Only"

Under the meter is IMO a damp, not dry location.
 
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