tyraps as emt support

[jrannis]

I use tywire, You cant see it from the ground and it can be tied very tight

 

[iwire]

I use tywire, You cant see it from the ground and it can be tied very tight

That is a good and strong way to go. :smile:

 

[ultramegabob]

I use tywire, You cant see it from the ground and it can be tied very tight

and its quicker to demo than beam clamps and minis, no wrench or scredriver, just a pair of dykes:grin:

 

[hardworkingstiff]

What's all this talk about demo? Do you really do that much of it?

 

[iwire]

What's all this talk about demo? Do you really do that much of it?

We do a fair amount of electrical demo in commercial tenant remodels. You can't let the regular demo contractors go nuts in a building that has other tenants.

 

[mdshunk]

We do a fair amount of electrical demo in commercial tenant remodels. You can't let the regular demo contractors go nuts in a building that has other tenants.

Plus, your bid may have taken into account reusing all the straight pieces of pipe and some or all of the larger conductors. I know I often figure that way. A demo contractor is going to have all that taken to recycle faster than you can whistle Dixie.

 

[George Stolz]

See 358.30(B)

The tie wraps are not even needed. The EMT can be simply laying on the bar joist... except the EMT has to be securely fastened within 3 feet of boxes.

I disagree:

358.30(A) Securely Fastened. EMT shall be securely fastened in place at least every 3 m (10 ft). In addition, each EMT run between termination points shall be securely fastened within 900 mm (3 ft) of each outlet box, junction box, device box, cabinet, conduit body, or other tubing termination.

 

[iwire]

George, (B) :smile:

 

[George Stolz]

Right, (B) says it can rest on the joist, but (A) requires it to be fastened to it as well, no?

 

[iwire]

Right, (B) says it can rest on the joist, but (A) requires it to be fastened to it as well, no?

IMO those sections are mess, if what you say is true what is 'B' really telling us?

 

[iwire]

I also really don't believe they meant through the webs of steel trusses, I think they mean holes in studs, joists, rafters etc.

But IMO the way it is written I could argue it applies to trusses. :grin:

 

[George Stolz]

I've been nailed (by fellow employees) for not securing inside a wall, I view that as a lesser evil than not securing through joists, IMO. More room to move in open joists.

 

[infinity]

But IMO the way it is written I could argue it applies to trusses. :grin:

Although it's not code, the authors of the NECH would agree that they are indeed framing members. This is supported by exhibit 344.2 for RMC which references 344.30(B)(4) and has the exact same verbiage as support for EMT, 358.80(B)

 

[Flex]

i came on this forum to learn more about electrical, and different ways i can improve the way that i do things. anyone who tye wraps pipes is a shoemaker and gives all electricians a bad name. my boss would fire anyone who tried that crap. hed rather spend more time and money and have it done right. there is no opinion involved here, it is a fact that tye wraps are the cheap cobbler way of doing things.

 

[iwire]

i came on this forum to learn more about electrical, and different ways i can improve the way that i do things.

If you can not learn things here you are trying not to.

anyone who tye wraps pipes is a shoemaker and gives all electricians a bad name.

Sorry to be blight on the industry. :grin:

my boss would fire anyone who tried that crap.

Then I would do what he says.

hed rather spend more time and money and have it done right.

Certainly his choice.

there is no opinion involved here, it is a fact that tye wraps are the cheap cobbler way of doing things.

No, that is an opinion, not a fact.

 

[Flex]

i definetly am learning things but im not impressed that someone would think nothing of doin crap work

 

[76nemo]

i came on this forum to learn more about electrical, and different ways i can improve the way that i do things. anyone who tye wraps pipes is a shoemaker and gives all electricians a bad name. my boss would fire anyone who tried that crap. hed rather spend more time and money and have it done right. there is no opinion involved here, it is a fact that tye wraps are the cheap cobbler way of doing things.

I threw up the fact that I like to tape wire nuts in areas where they are prone to vibration and harsher environments.

You must think I am a REAL "taped" nutcase:grin: Alot of others did:grin:


EDIT: Spelling

 

[76nemo]

i definetly am learning things but im not impressed that someone would think nothing of doin crap work

C'mon now with the adjectives, the forum doesn't really take too kindly to the "Holier than thou" jibber. I do applaud you for your ethic, but your opinion is YOUR opinion

 

[iwire]

i definetly am learning things but im not impressed that someone would think nothing of doin crap work

Dude get over yourself, your opinion is just that, your opinion.

As long as it meets code all other issues are between the customer and the EC.

 

[Flex]

Dude get over yourself, your opinion is just that, your opinion.

As long as it meets code all other issues are between the customer and the EC.

yea im not sayin im electrician of the year here, just surprised how nonchalant you are about doin it. guess i just learned differently. if you can put your name on it thats your thing.