electricmanscott
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i think fluorescents are the best, but many customers prefer xenon or halogen spots.
Thats's the bottom line. It cutomer preference but of course fluorescent is fugly.
i think fluorescents are the best, but many customers prefer xenon or halogen spots.
Too hot to store most foods on the cabinet bottom shelf. I've seen cans bulge from the heat.Too hot for what?
Okay, some plates, maybe, but not glasses and ice cream bowls.Personally I like my plates prewarmed.
Okay, but I got real close on that one.I think the NEC requires the NM to be secured to the box.:grin:
As I mentioned a while back when these were discussed, one would have to be very careful about mis-matching LED and fluorescent tubes and ballasts.about two weeks ago, I was at a b2b conference in town and saw a neat product i thought i should mention. we have a guy here that sells CFL's exclusively and has a new fluorescent shaped bulb that is actually LED's. You bypass the ballast and install this bulb as a retrofit; they also have a fixture that comes w/o a ballast and straightwired sockets for this bulb.
Don't get me wrong; I'm all for the idea, once they improve reliability and longevity.
I found the following pic through a google search; this is exactly like what was displayed.
The tube color has impoved in the last few years. They've gotten whiter without so much blue.It cutomer preference but of course fluorescent is fugly.
Too hot to store most foods on the cabinet bottom shelf. I've seen cans bulge from the heat.
Okay, some plates, maybe, but not glasses and ice cream bowls.
about two weeks ago, I was at a b2b conference in town and saw a neat product i thought i should mention. we have a guy here that sells CFL's exclusively and has a new fluorescent shaped bulb that is actually LED's. You bypass the ballast and install this bulb as a retrofit; they also have a fixture that comes w/o a ballast and straightwired sockets for this bulb.
I don't know what all sizes they come in but the one on display was a 48" T12; price was $100. I'm sure you can get them for less because this particular company is always higher than anyone else on price.
I found the following pic through a google search; this is exactly like what was displayed.
LEDs, we have been installing tons of them. We have done an entire large supermarket with all LED lighting and I do mean all.
Monday night I have a couple of guys installing 60' of LEDs under a canopy.
http://www.colorkinetics.com/ls/essentialwhite/ewflexslx/
LEDs, we have been installing tons of them. We have done an entire large supermarket with all LED lighting and I do mean all.
Monday night I have a couple of guys installing 60' of LEDs under a canopy.
http://www.colorkinetics.com/ls/essentialwhite/ewflexslx/
LEDs, we have been installing tons of them. We have done an entire large supermarket with all LED lighting and I do mean all.
Monday night I have a couple of guys installing 60' of LEDs under a canopy.
http://www.colorkinetics.com/ls/essentialwhite/ewflexslx/
just be careful the mounting screws that come with them are sometimes a tad long for the thickness of the bottom of a cabinet, nothing a small washer or two doesn't take care of though.
This is the only way I do it as well and the best looking lights I have found (warmest color, matches well with Incandescent bulbs etc...) are the Kichler series Xenon, I've installed tons and never had a complaint. Sure they run warm but what feels hot to your touch really is not as hot as you think it is in regards to lighting.
I typically put the whips 56" off the floor and try to get them poked out in the center of each upper cabinet they will go under.
Here is the one I most commonly use, just be careful the mounting screws that come with them are sometimes a tad long for the thickness of the bottom of a cabinet, nothing a small washer or two doesn't take care of though.
I agree these fixtures are easy to install, look nice and come in many differant sizes. We usually try to keep it to one wire poked out for each fixture.