vanity light height??

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splinetto

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480sparky said:
Usually, when I'm roughing a house, the HO has absolutely NO IDEA what they're going to have un the bathrooms.

So I just make several loops, one in each stub cavity, and that covers me.

Rough-in:

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Six months later, the HO decides she wants a light on each side of the mirror.

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I could have put a single light over the mirror, or added a 3rd light there, heck I could put in 6-8 lights should that what is requested.
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I kinda like the idea, however what do you do if the homeowner decides the light goes right were the plumbing stack is?...From experience its not a good feeling when you pull out the hole saw and the starter bit is poking the stack..and the second scenario it what if you cut 2 or more lights in and more than one falls on a stud?
 
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splinetto said:
I kinda like the idea, however what do you do if the homeowner decides the light goes right were the plumbing stack is?...From experience its not a good feeling when you pull out the hole saw and the starter bit is poking the stack..and the second scenario it what if you cut 2 or more lights in and more than one falls on a stud?
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I'll bet that's why he has a picture of this installation. He can look at the photo before he drills.

Just a guess :-?, I'm thinking this ain't his first rodeo :grin:
 
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r6ckstar

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I always do like 480, but in addition if the vent goes straight up the center just throw up a 2-by at the height aff, that way you can screw your pancake to it, just make sure to staple a loop to it as well.
 
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Power Tech

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splinetto said:
I kinda like the idea, however what do you do if the homeowner decides the light goes right were the plumbing stack is?...From experience its not a good feeling when you pull out the hole saw and the starter bit is poking the stack..and the second scenario it what if you cut 2 or more lights in and more than one falls on a stud?
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If I hit a stud or joist, I keep drilling with hole saw to the depth of the box. Drill some holes in the box, and use the stud for backing. I keep a hole saw for 3-0 and 4-0 boxes.


If you hit a vent, see post 10.
 
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Rocky, welcome to the forum! :)

r6ckstar said:
. . . if the vent goes straight up the center just throw up a 2-by at the height aff, that way you can screw your pancake to it, just make sure to staple a loop to it as well.
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Check out my post and pix at the bottom of page 1.
 
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480sparky

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George Stolz said:
Why is it there overfilling your box anyway? :confused:
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It's a branch circuit that feeds the bedroom above the bath. THe stupid plumbers cut it, and at this point in construction, the home run could net be replaced.

So..... into the nearest box it goes to get spliced, and a new 20' 14/2 is run upstairs.
splinetto said:
I kinda like the idea, however what do you do if the homeowner decides the light goes right were the plumbing stack is?...From experience its not a good feeling when you pull out the hole saw and the starter bit is poking the stack..and the second scenario it what if you cut 2 or more lights in and more than one falls on a stud?
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Stacks? Well, the HO gets told they're SOL. Studs? Pancake boxes.

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Poor Sparky, just trying to show us his loops in the wall LOL:D


I like the loops.
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I'm just loopy.
 
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jes25

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Has anyone ever noticed that a 3" pancake has less than 6 cu. in. of space? That means you can't even put one 14-2 in it.
 
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SiddMartin

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splinetto said:
I kinda like the idea, however what do you do if the homeowner decides the light goes right were the plumbing stack is?...From experience its not a good feeling when you pull out the hole saw and the starter bit is poking the stack..and the second scenario it what if you cut 2 or more lights in and more than one falls on a stud?
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nice idea! someday i may use that
 
LarryFine

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jes25 said:
Has anyone ever noticed that a 3" pancake has less than 6 cu. in. of space? That means you can't even put one 14-2 in it.
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There's always the fixture canopy volume. I've never seen one marked, though, but I've also never been pegged for using one.
 
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jes25

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LarryFine said:
There's always the fixture canopy volume. I've never seen one marked, though, but I've also never been pegged for using one.
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I thought you couldn't count that volume. If I get motivated I'll look, I thought it was specfically not allowed to be counted.

I guess it's just one of those things............
 
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trusdall84

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Here's where they throw you for a loop.

[2002] 314.16(B)(1) Conductor fill. Each conductor that originates outside the box and terminates or is spliced within the box shall be counted once, and each conductor passing through the box w/o splice/termination shall be counted once

As I read it, you only count the circuit the one time, so 2- 12's and 2-14's. Someone please please please explain it to me if I did something wrong.
 
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gndrod

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Good rope adjustable centering would align with the door height header at 80". A little off topic, but that plumber's dirty arm is over a horizontal 24" and should be a 2" diameter instead of the 1 1/2" pvc to compensate.
 
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