I've never seen any kind of blower in a wash stall. Drafts are generally not a good thing to subject a wet horse to. The better wash stalls I've seen have IR radiant heaters mounted either side of the wash stall to keep the animal's surface warm once the warm water stops and the drying off starts.Frankly I was thinking of Radiant ceiling heating but because your ceiling is so low, gas or electrical might be out.and or either get other types of convection heating installed in ceiling, walls or floor.
I don't think an industrial guage blower is the answer, while horses might be expensive, they are complete
rocks, and can be spooked easy, by unconvertional noises and if stuck around loud noises.
You really need a different kind of consult, I don't think there's that many Horse pep's here.
you might contact this person... i've done a bit of work for one of her clientsWash Stall in a Barn for horses, appox. 15' x 15' and 9' high .... needs a heater ...any suggestions ...:?
I'm not, still doesn't mean it may not be the best thing to install, even if it means less $$ in my pocket, the owner may like me being honest with them on what is best for them. Now if they don't want to remove an existing floor then the next best option may still require an HVAC guy and not so much from an electrician.This seems like something outside of what an EC would usually be supplying. I think we are into the realm of space heating. It probably should be handled by an HVAC contractor. How are you going to pull a permit as an EC to do HVAC work?
Why will a rubber mat keep it from working?For those of you suggesting radiant floor heat, what kind of floors are you usually seeing in wash stalls? Around here, they tend to be rubber matts, rubber pavers or some other kind of soft surface in which radiant floor heat wouldn't work at all. I'm also wondering if in other parts of the country wash stalls are completely enclosed that the idea of ducted HVAC is coming up at all? Every wash stall I've ever seen was open on at least one end and any kind of ducted HVAC would have to do the entire barn.
Radiant floor heat would probably work if left on all the time, but it would cost a fortune to run, and you don't want to heat the whole barn above about 65 degrees when it's cold out. Radiant heaters work much better for drying horses the few times per winter they get washed in my experience.Why will a rubber mat keep it from working?
I have seen radiant heat in concrete floors with carpet, vinyl, wood - you name it over the top and it still heats the space. That heat is going to rise no matter what, just may rise at a slower rate if covered with poor heat conductors. Cover a radiant heat system in a wall or ceiling with insulating materials though and you get less desirable results.
The radiant heat in the floor in an area like in the OP has other desirable results. The floor will dry faster, because it dries faster there may be less bacterial growth on the floor surface and possible better overall animal health. There is more to consider than just what the HVAC guy or electrician will cost. You need to know your clients needs when making such suggestions.
Not sure what brand you looked at but Kalglo is one of the big names you see a lot in upscale barns around here. Maybe because they're local?good points here and there ..
HVAC is not any option ...as it would need to be electric. no flame source in the barn ...
the rubber mats are about 1" thick .
next figure that the use would be short 15/30 mins ... so fast warm up...
I called about the unit today .. $1800.00 there is newer model number both come with 24v transformer so you can use whatever to operate it ...I would recommend a twist timer .. 30 min max ..
then i figured ok i'll google it and see if i can get better price ...LOL 2500 to 3500 elsewhere ...
Well now that we have more info radiant floor heat is probably not what is desired.Radiant floor heat would probably work if left on all the time, but it would cost a fortune to run, and you don't want to heat the whole barn above about 65 degrees when it's cold out. Radiant heaters work much better for drying horses the few times per winter they get washed in my experience.
Just a napkin calculation, but I'd think you'd need about 1200W-1600W of radiant floor heat to feebly heat a wash stall area in an unheated barn and it would probably have to run for a few hours to raise the temp in the stall to a comfortable level for the handlers . You're right though, the horses can probably handle the temperatures just fine (even if the soap in the water takes it down to the skin) and towel drying and a blanket are probably all they really need.Well now that we have more info radiant floor heat is probably not what is desired.
Why would it cost a fortune to run? Compared to other sources it usually makes the space feel comfortable at lower temperatures and actually costs less to run. If it were my barn and was starting from scratch I would still consider it as primary heat for the entire building - or at least spaces to be heated. Could possibly have a separate zone for the wash stalls set at a different temperature if that would work better. As far as drying a horse after washing it is likely to use a forced air dryer whether fixed or hand held to help speed up the process. Now maybe an aux overhead radiant heater adds to comfort during washing, but these animals even if pampered are tougher than many people are and can take a little coolness when being washed, and if you use warm water to wash probably is no big deal at all. If you want the wash stalls to be warmer than the rest of the barn by all means make them a separate room if you are concerned about the cost of heating the space, but from what I understand the heating costs are probably not much of a concern.
Just a napkin calculation, but I'd think you'd need about 1200W-1600W of radiant floor heat to feebly heat a wash stall area in an unheated barn and it would probably have to run for a few hours to raise the temp in the stall to a comfortable level for the handlers . You're right though, the horses can probably handle the temperatures just fine (even if the soap in the water takes it down to the skin) and towel drying and a blanket are probably all they really need.