you're wrong. no you're stupid. well you're stupider so there.

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Sahib

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On one side ingeniur statement that transformer KVA is adequate and there is no clear cut evidence on OP side it is not so. On the other side, American Electrician Handbook states KVA be equal to hp. What issue arises if the latter is not complied in OP case?
 

Besoeker

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I guess I'm glad someone thinks that's funny. I sure don't.
Perhaps you missed the smiley? No problem.



Anyway, the transformer is simply not big enough regardless of how Ing wants to manipulate his digits
 
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Besoeker

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Perhaps you missed the smiley? No problem.



Anyway, the transformer is simply not big enough regardless of how Ing wants to manipulate his digits
Um, I wasn't aware of any political comment.
The point is very simple. I, and others, have said the transformer simply isn't big enough.
I'm not asserting that it's the only problem.
 

Phil Corso

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Gentlepeople,

So far we've heard "stupid", and "stupider" in this never ending saga! I propose "stupidest"! Any takers (or leavers)? I suggest we vote?;)

Happy Thanksgiving to Celebrators (or is it Celebraters?)

Phil Corso
 

Ingenieur

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Perhaps you missed the smiley? No problem.

Anyway, the transformer is simply not big enough regardless of how Ing wants to manipulate his digits

so the this is a case of bad engineering
and my manipulation of digits
at least I show the reasons for my position
show me where I err, the other post has te back-up
you just make stuff up and repeat the same thing expecting us to rest on your word
engineering does not work like that

motor 750-840
xfmr 875
no over heating
no issue
imo
 

Ingenieur

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On one side ingeniur statement that transformer KVA is adequate and there is no clear cut evidence on OP side it is not so. On the other side, American Electrician Handbook states KVA be equal to hp. What issue arises if the latter is not complied in OP case?


the motor kva is less xfmr
xfmr 875
motor fl 845
 

Tony S

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OK just to chuck another pebble in to pool. UK DNO’s (PoCo’s) rate their transformers for cyclic overload at 125% summer, 150% winter.

Following a transformer failure we ran its partner at 120% continuous for 3 months. It was a 2nd hand unit of venerable age acquired from a military base so solidly built. All we did was add a couple of fans blowing over the cooling radiators.
 
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Ingenieur

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OK just to chuck another pebble in to pool. UK DNO’s (PoCo’s) rate their transformers for cyclic overload at 125% summer, 150% winter.

Following a transformer failure we ran its partner at 120% continuous for 3 months. It was a 2nd hand unit of venerable age acquired from a military base so solidly built. All we did was add a couple of fans blowing over the cooling radiators.

xfmrs are robust devices
operated within their limits 25-50 yrs is not unheard of
even sustained ol's of 20-50% can be tolerated

that is why the info the op was relayed is not plausible
an 875 operated at 750-840 will not clamp output at 95% or less
 

Phil Corso

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Gentlepeople...

I have investigated three "Captive-Xfmr" starting failures in my career! In all 3 cases, Xfmr failure was traced to excessive Acceleration, Starting, or Runup time! Two of the three incidents had catastrophic results, i.e., meaning a change in the area's topography!

Phil Corso
 

Ingenieur

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Yes according to the OP.
Why do you continue to dispute this fact?

you can have your own opinions but not your own facts

he did not say that
it did not fail due to over temp
in fact it did not over temp period
he got second hand info that output was clamped at 840, not plausible
 
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