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    I was on a jobsite today and the General forward this from another project he's on.

    This should make Mike Holt's, :"Electrical that's probably not approved"

    Needless to say, the threshold inspector made the contractor remove all of it!

    Check out the Post Tension cables and how they secured to them!



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    Where's the Ragu, parmesan cheese and garlic bread....?

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      #3
      Those guys must have one heck of a memory. I would never have remembered where I was headed, let alone where I started.
      Tom
      TBLO

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        #4
        I just threw up.
        Everyone involved should be fired and sent to the food service industry.

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          #5
          This doesn’t look like the first floor for this building. I wonder what the others looked like.

          Can anyone tell what country this is in?
          Tom
          TBLO

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            #6
            Originally posted by ptonsparky View Post
            This doesn’t look like the first floor for this building. I wonder what the others looked like.

            Can anyone tell what country this is in?

            I believe it's New York, or in the Northeast .... I'll find out where...

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              #7
              Originally posted by 480sparky View Post
              Where's the Ragu, parmesan cheese and garlic bread....?
              I've been designing a typical deck for the various systems on a Hotel. You need two inch spacing between conduits , and 2" min. away from the post tension cables.

              I was worried what my design looked like since the Electric room is small. After seeing this, I feel I might better... You will notice, I can only cross another conduit one time before it will not be approved

              In the end, the drawing will have to go to a structural engineer to be approved before we can install. How these guys almost got away with this is incredible. I'm wondering if they could get the wire in based on all the bends ...

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                #8
                Originally posted by Gary11734 View Post
                I was on a jobsite today and the General forward this from another project he's on.

                This should make Mike Holt's, :"Electrical that's probably not approved"

                Needless to say, the threshold inspector made the contractor remove all of it!

                Check out the Post Tension cables and how they secured to them!



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                Were they getting ready to pour concrete over the whole mess?

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by ggunn View Post
                  Were they getting ready to pour concrete over the whole mess?
                  The guy that sent this to me said the threshold inspector came on the deck and stopped the pour. You can see they already had the concrete pumper on the deck...

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Gary11734 View Post
                    I've been designing a typical deck for the various systems on a Hotel. You need two inch spacing between conduits , and 2" min. away from the post tension cables.

                    I was worried what my design looked like since the Electric room is small. After seeing this, I feel I might better... You will notice, I can only cross another conduit one time before it will not be approved

                    In the end, the drawing will have to go to a structural engineer to be approved before we can install. How these guys almost got away with this is incredible. I'm wondering if they could get the wire in based on all the bends ...

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                    I remember seeing the Excalibur go up in Vegas. Every floor was a mess of smurf tube. All different colors far various systems (elec, fire, comm, security etc). Looked like a ENT factory was picked up, turned upside-down, and vomited all over the job site. They didn't take the time to thread it under anything else... just drape it over whatever happened to be there. I'd be willing to bet many runs had 500° or more of bends.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Gary11734 View Post
                      The guy that sent this to me said the threshold inspector came on the deck and stopped the pour. You can see they already had the concrete pumper on the deck...
                      They were not getting ready to pour, not with all those wood reals on the deck. Never mind the electrical inspection, no concrete foreman would start a pour with all that trash in the way.
                      If Billy Idol is on your playlist go reevaluate your life.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by ActionDave View Post
                        They were not getting ready to pour, not with all those wood reals on the deck. Never mind the electrical inspection, no concrete foreman would start a pour with all that trash in the way.
                        Ever been on a deck before? I have. You don't pour the entire floor in seconds. I guarantee the guy couldn't get the crane to get the crap off the deck. So, move ahead of the pour and get it down to the floor below as the pour doesnt stop... Worked on those decks too long not to remember the drill.

                        I worked on 29 story buildings for five years. Never saw a electrical inspector make it to the deck. And this was Dade county , Florida (Miami) . Not po dunk USA. The old adage was, if you don't get it in the slab, it's your problem. I guess they assumed I was putting in EMT. No smurf in those days.

                        That concrete pumper cost money. If it's up there, the general is ready to pour. He assumes he's already passed inspection. That is how he makes his draws... They pour concrete whether your ready or not.

                        Who knows how close it was. It obvious, someone thought they were going to get away with this. I'm sure it happens quite often based on what your seeing and the Electrical contractor didn't have a clue it's all wrong. If he did, makes it worse...

                        What was the time it took to remove this crap? The general is losing money and the electrical contractor is now the head of the critical path. If I was the owner, I would x ray the slabs below and make the general tear the floors out. I bet it looks exactly like this mess if this floor is higher than 2.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Gary11734 View Post
                          The guy that sent this to me said the threshold inspector came on the deck and stopped the pour. You can see they already had the concrete pumper on the deck...
                          I thought that was a cannon... or a ray gun...

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by PaulMmn View Post
                            I thought that was a cannon... or a ray gun...
                            LOL... Looks like something out of Star Wars! We used Linden cranes. I wonder how high they can pump concrete from the ground?

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                              #15
                              This looks like Nashville based upon the Sheraton and the construction project would be what appears to be at 5th Ave S. and Broadway. Streetview has construction photos in it from May.

                              https://www.google.com/maps/dir//Fif...36.1607427!3e0

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