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ultramegabob said:
this whole fishtape thing is a hot topic with me this week, a fishtape that is only a couple months old was wound up with mud inside it, and its all rusty now, it took alot of wiping down with oil to get it usable again, of course, nobody did it....:mad:
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At least it got wound up!!

I've seen fishtapes used to pull in lot lights sprawled out in the parking lot, sitting in the mud, snow & water, getting run over....:mad:
 
we just had a guy break two handles out of drills. he was using a stepbit and acted like he was supprised when it caught and spun. just another case of someone claiming more experience than he really has.:mad:
 
200' x 1/8" steel tape less then $25.00

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To me they are disposable tool. :smile:


Now if they are rough with my fiberglass snake then I will be upset.
 
iwire said:
200' x 1/8" steel tape less then $25.00



To me they are disposable tool. :smile:


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Its your right to feel that way if your the one paying for it, but I dont want other people feeling the tools that I buy are disposable just because they only cost X amount of dollars....
 
ultramegabob said:
Its your right to feel that way if your the one paying for it, but I dont want other people feeling the tools that I buy are disposable just because they only cost X amount of dollars....
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Don't you include a "consumable tool" allowance on every job?
 
iwire said:
200' x 1/8" steel tape less then $25.00

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To me they are disposable tool. :smile:


Now if they are rough with my fiberglass snake then I will be upset.
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200' stainless $80. Disposable, or a 5 year investment? I bought mine by mistake. That works out to $16 a year.
 
peter d said:
Don't you include a "consumable tool" allowance on every job?
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mostly for things with cutting edges, properly used a fishtape is no more consumable than a sledgehammer. and just because I allow for an expense, I dont want to "have" to spend it...
 
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ultramegabob said:
Its your right to feel that way if your the one paying for it, but I dont want other people feeling the tools that I buy are disposable just because they only cost X amount of dollars....
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My job as a foreman is to bring the job on time for as low a cost as possible, which brings us back to...labor is expensive and snakes are relatively cheap.

If I have a couple of licensed guys snaking and it will go faster by sacrificing a full length snake for two shorter snakes then I will save money by cutting the snake.

I am not saying purposely destroy it, but if they need to fold it to pull it up out of a walker duct etc. then I have no problem.
 
frizbeedog said:
Don't worry chris, it just might make through the weekend. :smile:
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Yes but not too silly anymore. To all you Mothers out there I would like to extend a Happy Fathers Day!:)
 
iwire said:
My job as a foreman is to bring the job on time for as low a cost as possible, which brings us back to...labor is expensive and snakes are relatively cheap.

If I have a couple of licensed guys snaking and it will go faster by sacrificing a full length snake for two shorter snakes then I will save money by cutting the snake.

I am not saying purposely destroy it, but if they need to fold it to pull it up out of a walker duct etc. then I have no problem.
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sometimes you gotta do, what you gotta do... but the whole point of my original comment on this topic was for the FNG to learn to properly take care of a fishtape...
 
iwire said:
if they need to fold it to pull it up out of a walker duct etc. then I have no problem.
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In a case like this sure. I carry old fish tapes on the van for this type of thing. But I'm telling you people, SS fish tape is a great tool for every day use.
 
I haven't read the whole thread but, most of the jobs I do eat up a few ladders, numerous fish tapes, bushel baskets of drill bits, a good number of hole saws, etc... all of which is part of doing the job and is an adder to the job cost in the estimating process

Roger
 
roger said:
I haven't read the whole thread but, most of the jobs I do eat up a few ladders, numerous fish tapes, bushel baskets of drill bits, a good number of hole saws, etc... all of which is part of doing the job and is an adder to the job cost in the estimating process

Roger
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For years I bid high and got the jobs. Now things are a bit tighter. Not very much room for toys.
 
76nemo,
You deserve this story:
I used to have this housemate, call him Bruce, and his girlfriend, Dory. The had this mutual friend, call her Cathy cause I forget her name. Now Cathy had the habit of engraving a smiley face some where hidden on her possessions. In this case, she had a big Maglight and engraved the smiley ;) on the inside cap behind the spare light bulb.
One day, Cathy discovered her flash was missing and mentioned this to Dory. About the same time, Bruce showed up with a brand new Maglight. Dory asked to see it. She unscrewed the cap, took out the bulb and there was a smiley face ;) engraved right there. Bruce didn't say anything.
[Later, I discovered that he was a meth addict which explains a lot.]
~Peter
One thing that really infuriates me is the yellow, 1/4" rope. You need to put an eye loop in the end to pull wire with. It takes maybe five minutes -- 15 to do a bang up Navy job -- to install this loop. Then some nincompoop uses your rope to pull in some wire. Then he, she, it cuts the loop off. [German word for "bright"], you have to cut the ends of the wires off anyways. I get very micturated off about this. This was three years ago and I still am.
~Peter
 
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For construction work we do not buy those, no point. We just buy the steel snakes.

The service vans and remodel type jobs use those and often last fine under those conditions. :smile:
 
iwire said:
For construction work we do not buy those, no point. We just buy the steel snakes.

The service vans and remodel type jobs use those and often last fine under those conditions. :smile:
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Snakes? like a drain snake? or is that what you call a fish tape in your area?
 
peter d said:
Don't you include a "consumable tool" allowance on every job?
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Ten years ago I had a line item named Small Tools on the bid form (5% of the material cost). Small Tools probably needs to be a higher percentage now-a-dayz.

That doesn't mean that you destroy expendible items on every project, however they must be fed, repaired and eventually replaced.

Best Wishes Everyone
 
ultramegabob said:
Snakes? like a drain snake? or is that what you call a fish tape in your area?
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No drain snakes unless the potties clogged. :smile:

We just buy these replacement fish tapes without the cases.

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I find the open fish tape much better on construction jobs.
 
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