Craigslist in Greenville, SC...rant time....

Status
Not open for further replies.
I think this one may go back to the governments just making laws up that look good but have no effect. If the Government was serous about Licensing Trades to protect civilians they would have men/women/agents rooming the country checking on a construction site or potential construction site. Looking for insurance, WC, License, ect.
 
iwire said:
I am curious how you draw the line between the Govt requiring a license which your against and the Govt requiring an inspection which you seem to be for. :confused:

Both inhibit our liberty.
Click to expand...
You're right, but I draw the line between the items on that list that assure safety and the items that do not. You might call me a moderate in this regard.
 
peter d said:
Well I can't really answer that question without turning this thread into forbidden topics (religious beliefs)....so we'll have to leave it at that.
Click to expand...
Just as good an answer as any. There's nothing wrong with what anyone thinks, as long as we can get everyone to agree that there's nothing wrong with the way anyone thinks, which of course we can't.
Head hurt yet? Now you know what mine feels like all the time! ;):D
 
Last edited:
Marc FWIW I agree with you only in principle, however my principle is not going to overrule what our local gov'ts have decided on the issue of trade licensing. ;)
 
all I can say is here in nc I absolutely beleive in the licensing of individuals is required. I think the reason the other people dont agree is because the requirements in their state are lacking two things. Here not only did I have to sit through an eight hour 100 question exam, but I also had to go to my bank and have them draft me a letter stating that I could draw on a $100,000 line of credit if i needed to. This weeds through a great deal of the hacks that can pull permits in these very lacking states. Also, to address one other post, in NC if you are caught engaging or offering to engage in electrical contracting without a license you will get a fat class 1 misdemenor and a $1000 fine slapped on you not by a judge but by the board. These rules are not in place just to generate revenue for the board or whatever you naysayers beleive but they are to protect customers from unscupulous people. We have a great system here and although its not perfect, the solutions are absolutely not to stop issuing license.
 
mdshunk said:
Some (me) may argue that the requirement for a professional license is a violation of my civil liberties.
Click to expand...
How about the licensing requirements to practice medicine or drive a truck?
 
Last edited:
tyha said:
all I can say is here in nc I absolutely beleive in the licensing of individuals is required. I think the reason the other people dont agree is because the requirements in their state are lacking two things. Here not only did I have to sit through an eight hour 100 question exam, but I also had to go to my bank and have them draft me a letter stating that I could draw on a $100,000 line of credit if i needed to. This weeds through a great deal of the hacks that can pull permits in these very lacking states. Also, to address one other post, in NC if you are caught engaging or offering to engage in electrical contracting without a license you will get a fat class 1 misdemenor and a $1000 fine slapped on you not by a judge but by the board. These rules are not in place just to generate revenue for the board or whatever you naysayers beleive but they are to protect customers from unscupulous people. We have a great system here and although its not perfect, the solutions are absolutely not to stop issuing license.
Click to expand...


Which is why I have a great deal of respect for NC's licensing folks. South Carolina is severely lacking in this regard under the Residential Builders Commission. (We have Builders and affiliated residential trades board as well as a GC board.)

c2500
 
I have a lot of respect for the government in South Carolina. They do not meddle in others affairs unless they have to. Hail Dixie. (plus they have great fireworks)
 
ike5547 said:
How about the licensing requirements to practice medicine or drive a truck?
Click to expand...

I'm not sure but I would think Marc doesn't see licensing for these necessary either.

I guess the best thing for those who are against licensing to do is to stay where they are and fight tooth and nail if their state or area ever starts legislation that may change it.

For those of us in states that require licensing, report those who are contracting with out a license and sleep well after doing so. I know I do.

Roger
 
roger said:
I'm not sure but I would think Marc doesn't see licensing for these necessary either.

I guess the best thing for those who are against licensing to do is to stay where they are and fight tooth and nail if their state or area ever starts legislation that may change it.

For those of us in states that require licensing, report those who are contracting with out a license and sleep well after doing so. I know I do.

Roger
Click to expand...

I had a long discussion with a medical professional last week about this very subject. If there is ANY group of people who want to put up a smokescreen of professionalism, yet REFUSE to police their own, it is the medical profession. I think you picked a bad example.
 
nakulak said:
I had a long discussion with a medical professional last week about this very subject. If there is ANY group of people who want to put up a smokescreen of professionalism, yet REFUSE to police their own, it is the medical profession. I think you picked a bad example.
Click to expand...

Your argument indicates an even greater need for licensing and regulation in the the medical field--not less.
 
Funny this thread should show up today. Earlier on PBS John McLaughlin interviewed two Liberterians on his show.

On interesting point they made: Many people seem to have Libertarian leanings but few will come out and identify themselves politically as Libertarians.

Everyone draws their line somewhere. I for one support licensing and inspections at the local level. Once you get the state involved the faceless bureuacrats come rushing in. I for one shudder at the thought of the federal govt. taking control of our day to day work. Once they get control good luck ever getting it back.

I guess I am for local areas governing themselves and not being governed by others far away be it down state at the capitol or from Washington D.C. What do they know about how we want to live in my community?
 
powerslave said:
Everyone draws their line somewhere. I for one support licensing and inspections at the local level. Once you get the state involved the faceless bureuacrats come rushing in. I for one shudder at the thought of the federal govt.
Click to expand...
I agree. If the process becomes too centralized, and control is put into the hands of the few, abuses are more likely.
 
Last edited:
powerslave said:
Everyone draws their line somewhere. I for one support licensing and inspections at the local level. Once you get the state involved the faceless bureuacrats come rushing in.
Click to expand...

A state license doen't have any effect on you at all for the local level.

A state license just allows you to get a local business license. All permits and inspections are normally still at the local level, you never notice the difference.

You end up sending the state much less money than all the local governments. Work anywhere you want.
 
This thread is fun and makes me think.

Question for Marc. This forum is for professionals and prohibits DIYer's and the others. Do you feel as comfortable conversing with the unlicensed/unproven others and DIYer as you do us?
 
growler said:
A state license doen't have any effect on you at all for the local level.

A state license just allows you to get a local business license. All permits and inspections are normally still at the local level, you never notice the difference.

You end up sending the state much less money than all the local governments. Work anywhere you want.
Click to expand...

I guess in this case it does cut through the red tape.

Of course, I live in Illinois where two of the last four Governors went to federal prison. One is sitting there right now and they want to send the current Governor to prison too (not to mention all the other politicians from our state that have been put in prison). I'm sure some IL official would find a way to make money off state level licensing untill they caught him/her.:grin:
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Top