Builders themselves are. But subs aren't mandated to. So if I am going to provide a warranty, I think 'What Ken giveth, Ken can taketh away'.Here we are compelled for one year, I guess you are not.
I'm no pansy
I just keep a daily log and photos of my own work. That, along with a scope of work in a contract should do it.Maybe we need to start using a permenant marking system for wires, cables, boxes, and conduit with EC's name on the work so that when the EI comes and sees no markings, he knows the EC did not do it. I realize this would be another burden, but keeping that marking device only in your hands or locked up, might prevent this sort of thing from ever coming up.
Bob that's a whole different situation. If a GC uses more than one contractor that really none of our business, they do what they are paid to do and we do what we are paid to do and are responsible for.I have to say I am surprised at all the problems you guys seem to have with others doing electrical work on your jobs.
The customer hired us to put in the 1600 amp feeder and used their regular contractor to install the 200 amp feeder. No harm, no foul. They had a permit, we had a permit and the inspector knows the difference. :smile:
...I don't want you to answer this question with another question please...
Can't you read? Weren't you asked to avoid more questions?I thought you got some quality answers in this thread. Where did we go wrong
I think that's the major difference here Bob. If I understand this correctly the OP indicated that he had a permit out for the job but the add'l work done was performed by the GC who (I'm assuming) did not have a permit out to do the work. If both jobs were done at the same time, in essence wasn't the bootleg work done under the license of whomever took out the electrical permit (irrespective of whether it got inspected or not)? IMHO, I'd still go on file with a letter to the municipality stating that "any other" work done on the job was not done by me. You may have a good relationship with the EI but 2 years down the road when the condo burns down the lawyers aren't going to accept your testimony that the EI knew that you did not do the work.iwire said:They had a permit, we had a permit and the inspector knows the difference.
Coming from a guy out of work..... I say you should start developing other relationships....Hey guys, thanks for all the replys to this.
Here is an update.....
Last week had the final inspection. Inspector flagged me on "disposal and dishwasher circuit breaker are required to be operated simultaneously both appliances are in the same electrical box". I say to the contractor that I didn't even put those circuits in, they were existing, and did not require to bring that up to current code. He said take it up with the inspector, so I said I will just come change the breaker. I go to get the check, and they back charged me $30 for the reinspection fee. This chaps my ..... I spoke with another municipal today to get there input on the situation, and they said it is cut and dry business working out of the range of there license.
To top all of this off, the customer didn't like the slim line florecent fixtures or the installation method. To compromise, I offered to replace all the lamps to a different color, and suggested the contractor put a thin piece of wood on the bottoms of the cabinets to hide the wire to the fixture. The first thing the contractor said was "who is paying for that", and I replied not me.
I also replaced a smoke detector and door bell transformer on this job, no change order or back charge, just to get it finished and paid up.
I feel like an electrical whore. I have a call into the building official now, I should hear back from him tomarow. I will let him know what is going on.
I am so disappointed in the way some contractors are doing business. I have heard this guy stand up in front of the bulding officials at builders meetings, and ask them "what are you doing about unlicensed contractors doing work out of there scope".
2 circuits on same yoke..... But was from year condo was build..... Late 70'sComing from a guy out of work..... I say you should start developing other relationships....
However - I am assuming multi-inspector on multi-permit????? If this was your own permit - why were you not there to stuff the disconnect thing down his throat. ~ I mean, argue the point that he is mis-informed, the two pole breaker is only required if both circuits are on the same YOKE! And depending on code cycle if on the same MWBC... Not 'same box'.... As well as to lay claim to what you did and did not do.