GFCI for 220v garage receptacle.

[LarryFine]

There needs to be something in place to protect us from conflicting requirements.

 

[wwhitney]

Tesla's instructions here are specific to the hardwired unit.

Sure, but you were responding to a question about using a receptacle.

For a hardwired unit, you'd still need to GFCI protect it if it is outdoors at a dwelling unit and on a 50A circuit or smaller per 210.8(F). But indoors, or on a 60A circuit, you wouldn't have to.

Cheers, Wayne

 

[retirede]

Sure, but you were responding to a question about using a receptacle.

For a hardwired unit, you'd still need to GFCI protect it if it is outdoors at a dwelling unit and on a 50A circuit or smaller per 210.8(F). But indoors, or on a 60A circuit, you wouldn't have to.

Cheers, Wayne

Isn’t that new for 2023?

 

[wwhitney]

Isn’t that new for 2023?

210.8(F) is new for 2020, not sure if it changed in 2023.

Cheers, Wayne

 

[retirede]

210.8(F) is new for 2020, not sure if it changed in 2023.

Cheers, Wayne

Thank you. I knew it was recent.

 

[tortuga]

I think the NFPA issued a TIA and created a blanket exception.

 

[ruxton.stanislaw]

I've been spying on the forum for well over a decade, but I just signed up a few minutes ago. The Tesla 60a chargers have a Maximum of 48 amps output. 48x1.25=60a but the load is 48 amps, so I think the next size up rule would apply. Also, I've ran a Neutral in the past for plug in chargers because it just seemed weird to install a receptacle and leave a terminal empty.

For sure. Imagine some poor sod comes along and plugs in a spider box or questionable generator/RV plug adapter to the two poles without a neutral. It's a disaster waiting to happen.