hardworkingstiff
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roger said:Back to the OP, I-Line for me and 15 amp breakers for my general lighting circuits.
Roger
LOL, you go Roger. The OP did say money was no object.
If it were your house...Panel Choice
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LOL, you go Roger. The OP did say money was no object.
hardworkingstiff
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LarryFine
Master Electrician Electric Contractor Richmond VA
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- Henrico County, VA
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- Electrical Contractor
Nope, it only goes up to +10db . . . from -96db. With 2200 watts continuous, who needs 11?iwire said:
I'm actually suprised nobody took me to task for installing two relays and a contactor in a panel.
Open invite for anyone in, near, or visiting Richmond who wants to watch a movie or concert*: PM me.
Added: * Or just talk AV.
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- Massachusetts
LarryFine said:I'm actually suprised nobody took me to task for installing two relays and a contactor in a panel.
Sounds like a great place to me.
peter d
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LarryFine said:I'm actually suprised nobody took me to task for installing two relays and a contactor in a panel.
Ok, here you go then:
HOW DARE YOU!!! THE LISTING.....THE LISTING.......THE LAWYERS.........THE CHILDREN......THE ENDANGERED SPECIES!!!! .......etc etc
Is that better?
LarryFine
Master Electrician Electric Contractor Richmond VA
- Location
- Henrico County, VA
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- Electrical Contractor
"Salvation lies within . . .
. . . the NEC!"
. . . the NEC!"
- Location
- Massachusetts
peter d said:Ok, here you go then:
HOW DARE YOU!!! THE LISTING.....THE LISTING.......THE LAWYERS.........THE CHILDREN......THE ENDANGERED SPECIES!!!! .......etc etc
Is that better?
I bet he did not even have an engineer approve it.
LarryFine
Master Electrician Electric Contractor Richmond VA
- Location
- Henrico County, VA
- Occupation
- Electrical Contractor
Sure, I did. He said "Putting relays in a panel is okay?"iwire said:I bet he did not even have an engineer approve it.
And I said "Thanks!"
"I shot the clerk?" ~ Rapph Machio as Bill Gambini in My cousin Vinny
peter d
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iwire said:I bet he did not even have an engineer approve it.
Yup, no drawings, no cut sheets, no submittals...I'll bet he didn't even have it inspected.
LarryFine
Master Electrician Electric Contractor Richmond VA
- Location
- Henrico County, VA
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- Electrical Contractor
Sure, I did. Three of my friends have seen it.peter d said:I'll bet he didn't even have it inspected.
All three of them.
LarryFine
Master Electrician Electric Contractor Richmond VA
- Location
- Henrico County, VA
- Occupation
- Electrical Contractor
I do, too! You can ask him if you want.roger said:I for one don't believe it. (that you have three freinds)
K8MHZ
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- Occupation
- Electrician
SQ D QO's for me.
The inspectors around here refer to GE's as 'arc welders'.
No CH's for me, either.
One of the inspectors in my area carries a knife with him that he managed to short a circuit out with. He was less than 20 feet from the 15A CH breaker feeding the receptacle and managed to burn 1/2 inch off the end of his knife and the breaker never tripped.
We were on a re-mod one day and I engaged a 15A CH breaker and the lights in the basement dimmed almost all the way out. I turned off the breaker and they came back on. After checking what I could see in the panel I asked the boss man to grab his amp clamp and check the conductor coming from the breaker for me. I turned it on, the lights dimmed out and he said '115.7'. I laughed and said 'Amps, not volts!'. He said 'That was amps!' We found a dead short in an outside light. The breaker set and held over 115 amps without tripping.
I saw an apprentice once let a #12 ground wire slip out of his hand and it hit the buss bar on a 200A SQ D Homeline panel. The sparks flew and the 200A main tripped almost instantaneously with only a little dot of burn mark on the buss and a tiny ball of melted copper on the wire. He managed to do it twice that day and scared the tar out of himself and the carpenters working near him.
Please note that I was an apprentice also at the time and he was a year ahead of me so I had no authority to tell him to get out of the panel.
I do pity his wife though. She had to do his laundry.
The inspectors around here refer to GE's as 'arc welders'.
No CH's for me, either.
One of the inspectors in my area carries a knife with him that he managed to short a circuit out with. He was less than 20 feet from the 15A CH breaker feeding the receptacle and managed to burn 1/2 inch off the end of his knife and the breaker never tripped.
We were on a re-mod one day and I engaged a 15A CH breaker and the lights in the basement dimmed almost all the way out. I turned off the breaker and they came back on. After checking what I could see in the panel I asked the boss man to grab his amp clamp and check the conductor coming from the breaker for me. I turned it on, the lights dimmed out and he said '115.7'. I laughed and said 'Amps, not volts!'. He said 'That was amps!' We found a dead short in an outside light. The breaker set and held over 115 amps without tripping.
I saw an apprentice once let a #12 ground wire slip out of his hand and it hit the buss bar on a 200A SQ D Homeline panel. The sparks flew and the 200A main tripped almost instantaneously with only a little dot of burn mark on the buss and a tiny ball of melted copper on the wire. He managed to do it twice that day and scared the tar out of himself and the carpenters working near him.
Please note that I was an apprentice also at the time and he was a year ahead of me so I had no authority to tell him to get out of the panel.
I do pity his wife though. She had to do his laundry.
JohnJ0906
Senior Member
- Location
- Baltimore, MD
LarryFine said:
Are these 2 of them?
Did they help you?
bradleyelectric
Senior Member
- Location
- forest hill, md
mtec said:
Just as a note in case you buy hardware at the big boxes. You don't have to have your reciept with you if you tell them you put it on your commercial account and give them your card. They can just scan your card and find the purchase and credit your account. That's how I do it around here at least.
bradleyelectric
Senior Member
- Location
- forest hill, md
LarryFine said:
Did they like it?
wbalsam1
Senior Member
- Location
- Upper Jay, NY
Sq D QO's. IMHO, the absolute best there is for a residence.
IMHO, the absolute best there is for a residence.
DesignerMan
Member
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- Lititz, Pennsylvania
wbalsam1 said:Sq D QO's.
I agree...SD QO is my preference also...
busman
Senior Member
- Location
- Northern Virginia
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- Master Electrician / Electrical Engineer
mdshunk said:
When did I start making panels? I thought it was Cooper Bussmann?
hey_poolboy
Senior Member
- Location
- Illinois
My house and garage have only QO!
I would possibly do a CHBR, but that would be a stretch.
I would possibly do a CHBR, but that would be a stretch.
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