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u misread, read my post again.
Not surprising seeing as the title of this thread is false and misleading.
The 2011 does not prohibit two-wire replacements.
New 2011 require no more 2 wire outlets
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Not surprising seeing as the title of this thread is false and misleading.
The 2011 does not prohibit two-wire replacements.
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- Retired Electrical Contractor
Ken this part is not important since elsewhere in the code gives relief. The 2 wire non grounded receptacle may still be used in 2011 for replacement.
brother
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no its not, but i guess i shouldn't expect any other comment from you to me. seeing you never read my private message. *shaking my head*
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Show me the 2011 code section that prohibits the use of two wire replacement receptacles.
hillbilly1
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On a related note (sorry if it's been brought up before - I haven't done a forum search on the topic)... how are these things legal?
If you have an ungrounded 2-prong receptacle, then there's probably no EGC present in its box. So if you plug that little dingle-wizzy in, and install the receptacle trim screw through the little green metal tab, you're still not grounding anything.
I imagine the instructions that come with one of those things say "Do not install on receptacles with no EGC present" or some such, but every time I see these things at the hardware store, they're just piled into a bin with no packaging or instructions or anything.
Again, sorry if this has been discussed previously. Just baffled by these things.
I have run across a few old houses that are wired with BX, also old commercial installations with emt or BX. Good grounding path? Questionable, but this may be the justification of these before grounding type receptacles were available.
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Nobody, but they are not required in the 2011 NEC.
406.4(D)(5) requires replacement receptacles to be tamper resistance where required elsewhere by the code.
406.12 is the requirement for tamper resistant receptacles and Exception #4 specifically allows the use of 2 wire nongrounding receptacles that are not tamper resistant in accordance with 406.4(D)(2)(a).
Chris
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- Windsor, CO NEC: 2017
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- Service Manager
I say when this all wraps up, we insert "Myth '__' Debunked" around the title.
LarryFine
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- Henrico County, VA
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- Electrical Contractor
There is to me. I'd fire anyone who cut the EGC prong off any plug.
lakee911
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ericsherman37
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I would cut the cord off all his power tools too.:grin:
tallgirl
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- Controls Systems firmware engineer
What if they are all battery powered?
hurk27
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What if they don't work for you?
Then I would say it would be fruitless for them to fill out an application:grin:
hurk27
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I like these things, they allow me to use my 3-light tester as a one light indicator when trouble shooting 2-wire receptacles
Take his batterys away:grin:
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How is a car that can go 150 MPH legal to sell?
It is up to the operator to use it correctly. :grin:
They are UL listed so they probably have directions somewhere.
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