jumper
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The problem is that their electrons are metric.
Three ways, the debate
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The problem is that their electrons are metric.
mbrooke
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gar
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To solve the up-down problem relative to on and off use a GE RR relay system. Further with the RR system you can have as many switching points as desired with all having up as on and down as off. And you don't have to run heavy wire between switches.
Also much more complex circuits can be designed, like controlling many separate switched circuits from a single switch.
Once you understand the logic of this type of system it becomes simple and possibly fewer errors in wiring may occur.
I don't own any GE stock.
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To solve the up-down problem relative to on and off use a GE RR relay system. Further with the RR system you can have as many switching points as desired with all having up as on and down as off. And you don't have to run heavy wire between switches.
Also much more complex circuits can be designed, like controlling many separate switched circuits from a single switch.
Once you understand the logic of this type of system it becomes simple and possibly fewer errors in wiring may occur.
I don't own any GE stock.
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ptonsparky
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Me!At my home anyway, having one up drives me nuts. When I moved into my home I could only turn the lights on and off from down stairs because the switch upstairs would point up in the off position. I am severally OCD with how things look.
Let me guess, you have no 4 ways in your house?
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The things people worry about always surprise me.
We have a foreman that goes ballistic if the device plate screws are not perfectly vertical.
mbrooke
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I do, and then must be down also when all the others are down :thumbsup:
mbrooke
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The things people worry about always surprise me.
We have a foreman that goes ballistic if the device plate screws are not perfectly vertical.
I feel his frustrations :lol:
There is a fine line between genius and insanity
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The justifications get funny, If its not vertical someone can catch a finger nail on it.
mbrooke
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It can happen to our loved ones.
Strathead
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The things people worry about always surprise me.
We have a foreman that goes ballistic if the device plate screws are not perfectly vertical.
I don't see what is wrong with that. Is it the "perfect"?
Strathead
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Pure speculation on my part, but I figured that it was called a three way because there are three ways the switches can be configured. Both up, both down, and one up one down.
kwired
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Now tell us the four configurations of 4-way switches
Strathead
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Now tell us the four configurations of 4-way switches
I see the smile, but seriously, doesn't it make sense? I have trouble with the concept that way equates to wire, because then an SPDT switch would also be a three way.
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Nothing is 'wrong' about it and if he or a customer asked for it I will do it.
But to me the direction of a plate screw head is meaningless.
K8MHZ
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I used to try to line the all up, coming through the union and all. I thought it was a union thing.
Then the plastic covers got so cheap, lining up the screws would often crack the covers.
Now I put the screws in like they were probably designed, I turn them until they are tight enough and leave it at that.
peter d
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We always orient the plate screws the same way. :thumbsup:
Strathead
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Pure opinion, but either all horizontal or all vertical is a requirement on my projects. I prefer vertical, but won't dictate. My reasoning is this...(again purely my opinion). I believe our brains are very powerful things. Think of how amazing it is that we can calculate the direction, acceleration and curve of a baseball within the first few feet after it leaves a bat and be on the way to its destination instantly. In the same sense, when people walk through a room, while things may not register in the front part of their brain, I believe they "notice". Among those things are uniformity, level, plumb, and minor imperfections, including the alignment of the screws. It all adds up to a feeling of "good" or "bad" and of course various stages in between. The closer to good the less likely Architects, owners, inspectors are going to be critical. That is well worth the zero extra time it takes to line up your screws.
K8MHZ
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Ask someone that is not related to the electrical trade if they ever notice which way the cover screws line up.
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Bingo
Other than the OCD home owners of high end homes looking at things before the home is furnished I doubt it really comes up
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