YOU make the call! Recep in kitchen bet

YOU make the call! Recep in kitchen bet


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George Stolz

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Please help me settle a bet. Under the 2008 NEC, is a receptacle required where the red outlet is shown in this picture? It is a kitchen peninsula in a dwelling unit. The dark gray square is a sink.

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Argument #1: Figure 210.52(C)(1) indicates that if the distance between the wall line and the back of the sink is less than 12", then the sink divides the countertop into a peninsula and an island. Therefore, a receptacle would be required where the red outlet is shown in the picture, to serve the "island" created by the sink's seperation.

If you subtract the overhang from the measurement from sink to edge of counter, you would have around 10" of depth of counterspace.

Argument #2: Figure 210.52(C)(1) does not apply to peninsula or island countertops, because the only code reference to Figure 210.52(C)(1) is in the text of 210.52(C)(1), hence the name of the figure.

210.52(C) states that where a sink is installed in a peninsula and the width of the countertop behind the sink is less than 12 in., the sink is considered to divide the countertop space into two separate countertop spaces. Since it asks us to measure the width of the countertop, the presence of an overhang has no bearing on whether we need a receptacle or not.

Since there is over 12" of space behind the sink, no separation is created, and one receptacle anywhere on the peninsula will suffice (provided there is not more than 6" of overhang in that location.)
 
I'm voted no with 210.52C(3) as my backup:

Peninsular Countertop Spaces. At least one receptacle outlet shall be installed at each peninsular countertop space with a long dimension of 600 mm (24 in.) or greater and a short dimension of 300 mm (12 in.) or greater. A peninsular countertop is measured from the connecting edge.
 
210.52(C)(1) does not apply as this is a peninsula, and that section is for wall spaces.

Then, since this is a peninsula, 210.52(C)(3) applies, and you already have the one required there. The second paragraph of 210.52(C) requires 12" or less to consider it a seperate space.

I vote no.

Jim, then vote above - that will be the official determination of who wins the bet. :)

And the 'winners' share the spoils?
 
210.52(C)(1) does not apply as this is a peninsula, and that section is for wall spaces.

Then, since this is a peninsula, 210.52(C)(3) applies, and you already have the one required there. The second paragraph of 210.52(C) requires 12" or less to consider it a seperate space.

I vote no.

I also vote no.
 
It looks to me, from the image in post #1, that the width of the countertop BEHIND the sink is about 1 or 2 inches. There is more width in FRONT, but that is not what the code discusses. :D

OK. Kidding aside, I voted no.
 
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